Individual War Feedback

Discussion in 'Past Announcements' started by [ATA]Grant, May 30, 2014.

  1. Please bring back clan wars. You are simply ruining clans and clan loyalties through Individual wars.

    Stacked rosters and All SH rosters can easily be countered, if matched clans based on the builds they casted, along with your usual matchup algorithm which takes Build cs, Equip cs and Ally cs into account.

    This way, any stacked roster, or any roster unfairly built on just 01 build type[ (01-02 LB + All ps) or All SsH or All SH or (03-04 LB + rest SH), or all Hansels ] etc. can easily be countered.

    All you need to do is match such rosters with rosters having similar builds. And in case of no such corresponding roster being available in a particular war, such rostered clans simply get a no match.
     
  2. I'm 2/1 in indi as a hansel I love it but haven't played against a hansel who knows what he's doing yet.
     
  3. I understand your point of view, and i see your frustration regarding team building with this iwars... and the lack of wc and tracker... but still the idea is hard to implement... from many aspects:
    1. No one wants to take responsibility to be official wc and tracker as if in case of a loss many will blame them! and if people will not cast the wc spell... will be no wars! (and i think now are much more players warring then was before! that is a fact! you can see how many new to warring are when you are signed up!)
    2. will be hard to control this... many will exploit this... plus based on what you will give those achievements? who decides if WC was doing his job great or bad... was a noob or was an impostor!? you need too much human interaction for this!
    3. What if I cast the spell and i'm a noob to WC and tracking! i'm casting just for fun!! will you let me lead you? I think not!

    we can discuss this for hours... i'm not trolling but I think this still is not a solid solution honestly!

    I think the main problem with this I-wars are the team building... so many new-to-war players, and rosters are too big! small teams could be a solution to this! less headache no need for tracker! as everyone can do it for itself, or all together! and a more of a pvp experience! (I've posted a threat with this idea and how to solve the time zones problem also, i will not get into it again)
     
  4. The only thing is everyone is able to war now. 1 week clan wars are also provided. But some that are not war build should also get change to war mate. while your idea looks good but it will create no match every time and no one will be able to war. People do not know their bfe or bfa and cant even calculate every war schedule.

    So, I seriously support the idea for continuing 1week clan wars and 1 week iwars which can benefit both type of warriors, war build and non-war build.
     
  5. Yes i agree... there will be too many no match!
     
  6. I got your point on recruitment for this will be hard and I got answers for you on your questions.
    1. The wc and trackers those whose are involved will be recruited through the process of voting in forums itself and every player loving wars always uses the forums and the special spells would have no effect if the player doesnt have any of "WC" or "Tracker" spells. The advantage would be the spells will be with "WC Blue" or "Tracker Purple" which will allow them to be colored and save their miths and encourage them to involve in this type of event. They will be selected by players only so there will be no point of blaming to them, while thier work will show up clearly regardless of win or loose. Colors are just an example but they can be given different rare colors which are not in miths. and this will be decided by the support team not me lol.
    2. Achievement will be given to players once they are select as wc or tracker whatever they apply for. Imposters will not get enough votes from other players and wont even get selected.
    3. As mentioned above itself this question is answered.

    The point is the players involving iwars with official wc and tracker are themselves agreeing to the terms that they will allow wc and tracker to work upon for them regardless win or loss. And everyone knows war are about team work and co-operation along with strategies. Players that blames or abuses wc and tracker for lose can be later banned for further iwars and I will allow support to decide the period.

    Still looking forward to hear from anymore suggestion or queries if you have any.
    Good questions antonio00ro
     
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  8. Well Ninzu, kudos first of all on getting the "Quote Unquote" BB code right. Bravo !

    Indi wars are definitely good for builds who want to do EE wars, but cant. But then, there are EE builds too who have spent lots of time, energy and rl money getting their build right for EE. So fr such builds, clan wars are still the first choice.

    I would actually like to see an equal mix of clan wars and Indi wars. This way EE builds can opt fr either Indi wars or Clan wars, while eb builds can continue to enjoy EE wars via Indi wars.
     
  9. The nail was hit on the head - bfa and bfe - if you matched build for build in match up - you could end up matching a stacked roster of lb with say Red Cella and Donno against 3 top 200 lb

    Also SH would then get matched against SSH

    And as there are only 2/3 clans that dont use SH in their rosters - and the ones that do , their SH have more bfa than bigs in other rosters
     
  10. No offence Ra - but clan wars are now ran for stacked clans only, everyone else with a sense of fair play - all do indie wars as even though no system is ever 100% perfect, far far more people can war and take part

    Shadow hansels created these messed up rosters, why change the system to allow stacked rosters to stay, no 1 priority should be finding a way to encourage growth
     
  11. With due respect, Vix, Shadow Hansels and Guild Hansels were born out of necessity. A need and an urge of huge LB to bash up smaller clans and enjoy easy wins. Shadow Hansels or Guild Hansels are similar builds in essence, like ps and hansels, or even haxor builds. All such builds have a similar purpose. Either balancing rosters, or having more spy actions or leaking less to the opp.

    If everyone had played fair, things may have been different.

    Each build has its own strengths and shortcomings. And in my view, it is not right to simply single out one particular build type, simply because we know that SH may not have the arsenal to face a bigger build.

    Reson why I had mentioned that clans with similar build types should be matched.
     
  12. With somewhat respect, a few clans did keep fair. You LB and SH stacking clans didn't. All good though, been here long enough to know manipulation doesn't stay. SH pay crap and LB you can't win on. I think one clan does balanced rosters now?

    Carry on iwars!
     
  13. I don't understand why Non-Stacked rosters can't match Vs Non-Stacked rosters and Stacked rosters match Vs Stacked rosters.
    Am I missing something?
     
  14. Just two things, Zolayla..

    First, my views are my own. Please do not involve any clans in this.

    Second, I think you misread what I wanted to say. Please do reread it to understand it better.

    Cheers
     
  15. Dylacer, that is exactly what I wanted to say
     
  16. I did read. It stopped after you said 'shadow hansels and guild hansels were needed' that added to the cluster ball it is now, it didn't help. But I get what you tried to say.
     
  17. Looking at the conversation here, My idea for running both clan wars and iwars stands still.

    1. A week for those players who war with their own rosters with the wc and tracker of their own choice.

    2. Running iwars with allotting official WC and Tracker would be great idea. No one will get hurt and every will grow efficiently while enjoying the game on the other part.

    This way every possible build can war, and these iwars and their rosters are running successfully even else the weekend wars which have too many sign ups.



    Looking forward for the support and reviews on this idea. Please do look atleast once. Its worth reading.
     
  18. Stack roster are meant to avoid one another.

    Example for 15 members roster,

    Clan A stack 2 LB and 13 sh

    Clan B stack 4 LB and 11 sh

    Will both of this clan match? The answer is unlikely, or it will be a bad match.

    Also, those who thinks that sh is inferior compared to mid build. Please take a look at allies LB. There are some sh who are in top 200 and I am sure there are many more in top 500.
     
  19. How is that a bad match?
    By dev standards? No one knows what those are.

    They need more weight in the area of Spread of Combined Stats from Top to Bottom.