Nobody wants to do 'The Vanished Paladins' after they loose in a war. The war system should give back ONLY the Mith used to the loosing clan. This will allow players to go straight to sleep after a late war AND non warring clan members to hit again without delay. It also removes the incentive for clans to signup to war, not cast spells and not fight just to get a few Mith.
Against, this was used for compensation to losing, so you at least get something back, you won't get more if you lose
Agree, not for the fact that clans don't want to do it, but for the fact that there are clans that take advantage of it. Example are clans that opt for war, cast no mith, dont fight. Then do it for free mith.
@BrownBunny - Please read the OP. The war system will give back the Mith as it does for the winners. This is your compensation. There are also better paying EBs than VP so technically even the players from the war are loosing out, as are those in the clan that did not war. They cannot hit VP, they are excluded and must wait until it's finished.
100% Support from DiViNuM FuRoReM. Especially now with 15 wars a week coming, it will be difficult to even complete VP with so many wars in different timezones.
Agree with op, and most specially with ruperts opinion. That madness can be possibly seen in saturdays wars since its 3 wars in a 12-15 hr stretch, plus theyll be 2 hr wars.
I think it'd be better if it just gave back 14 mith, cuz those are the normal battle spells used, so if 14 is given back I think that's be fair because it's not cool if I war and I lose, but because I cast, let's say, maybe 54mith, then I get 54 back, that doesn't seem very fair because the only actual real spells that help u in war with ur stats and all are the 4 battle ones, which cost 14 mith. Also, the 4 battle spells are usually the spells that most people cast for wars, unlike others who cast like 50
I do like the idea, but i don't like that all your mith would be returned. That would mean there would be no risk and casting all miths wouldn't be as dangerous. I think the max that should be returned is 14 for the 4 war spells. Any others mith should be casted with a risk of losing it.
Today i had to do that eb, after w 2hr war, ufff, i hate this silly time-consuming eb for a random pay. Please, support the op, bring an end to this madness.
vanish palanin could remain, but there should be mith drop limit: ppl should get 50-100% mith used in war ... so if they use 0 then they get nothing ..... and it's random
What if the VP was always available but required something like the Seal of the Damend, but only dropped from wars to clan owner. No way to purchase it, and then clans could choose when to do VP? Solves the issue of timing but not the issue of people taking advantage of war to get the VP though.
this proposal is interesting, but I have a few questions. 1. If my clan lost today's war, and I ran vanished palidin EB tomorrow, would all clan members be able to participate? Would the members who did not war get to score free mith? 2. Some clans abuse the vanished palidin EB by refusing to cast mith in war, and then they intentionally lose, so they can get the mith payout from the vanished palidin EB. Would you have a way to prevent this? I'd hate to see some clans go "seal hunting". 3. Would you consider simply reimbursing the losing clan 90% of mithril automatically at end of war and making the VP eh something that is accesses able to anyone via very rare seal drops from select EBs?
@kaw admin I think you just answered your question with the last line sir The op is getting support mainly because 1- people hate doing the tvp at late hours, also bc they can commit to 2 hr wars but having to do 2 more can stretch them 2- the clans are matching for mith farming are taking advantage of current system 3- people HATE to get a random 10-15, when most cast the 14 or above. It would be rewarding to get our spent mith back OR sinply make it an even 15 or 16( color mith for wc plus the 14 war stats spell) no cast spells?( mith farmers) no mith back. In fact, odd idea, make it so if you dont cast 14 mith, youre not eligible for the tvp payout. That will screw up the current farming issue
@Moose & kaw_admin, What about the clans who get no matches so they can't get that war drop or get access to TVP?
I would parce hairs on this issue. Clans that get no matches due to to statistical roster balances should get no mithril. This prevents intentional stacking of rosters to score an endless supply of easy mith. Clans that are simoly, odd man out, however, should receive adequate mithril compensation, as people have carved out time from their busy schedules to war, and, through no fault of their own, cannot do so. At least, that's my moosey 2 cents worth
The devs already stated before that if they see a clan abusing TVP, they will take away every winning of mith they have or something along those lines.