Use of bronze bars Based on Smithing - Per moose request

Discussion in 'Ideas + Feature Requests' started by Wintern0va, Oct 4, 2013.

  1. Bronze Bars Use

    Moose has asked me to make my idea Viable.

    Upgrade to Castle

    Cost - 5 Billion

    This adds a "Forge" to the Castle which adds a smithing section somewhere in the Game. This is where Materials (Gold Bars, Silver Bars, Bronze Bars) Can be Bought to Build Better Equipment.

    Leveling System: Possibly 1-10, Each Level Means you can Make Better Equipment and Buy Better Materials




    Levels

    Level 1-3 Uses Bronze Bars (Each Level can make more types of bronze equipment available)

    Level 4-6 Silver (Each Level can make more Silver items available)

    Level 7-8 You Can Mix Your Mithril With The silver, (Each Level makes more items available)

    Level 9 Gold

    Level 10 Mix Mithril With Gold


    The way you level is you have to make a certain amount of armor and pay to upgrade the section of your castle each time.
    Obviously this is where the Difference comes in between the weaker and the stronger because of money

    Upgrade Costs

    Level 1 is the initial cost in upgrade

    1 to 2 - 10 Billion and 1/6 of Bronze Items Made

    2 to 3 - 20 Billion And 1/2 of Bronze Items Made

    3 to 4 - 30 Billion (No items Transition) OR (All Bronze Items Required)

    4 to 5 - 50 Billion and 1/4 Silver Items

    5 to 6 - 100 Billion and 1/2 Silver Items

    6 to 7 - 250 Billion (No Items Another Transition) OR (All Silver Items Required)

    7 to 8 - 500 Billion and 1/2 Mithril Mix Silver items

    8 to 9 - 800 Billion (No Items Transition) OR (All Mix Mith Silver Items Required)

    9 to 10 - 1.2 Trillion Requires all Gold Items


    The Items you create do not have to be equipped but will be stored in an "Armory" This way the Stronger do not have to equip bronze items and instead can keep their certain items they have. Items are freely interchangeable and are never destroyed.

    On transitions it is up for debate whether its free of item requirements OR it must require all items to be made but the transition from gold to Mix gold is definitely going to require all Items to be made

    Pricing of bars

    Bronze bars start at 30m
    Silver 200m a pop
    Gold 1b Per.


    Items to be made will go in the equipment Slots.

    Items are also upgradeable just like current equipment.


    I would suggest obviously the better the items the more bars you would need... IE the best armor in the game requires 200 Gold Bars and 200 Mithril (Or whatever devs choose)

    Constructive Criticism is appreciated but being an asshole is not.

    Much Appreciated,
    Wintern0va


    ***CHECK HERE FOR UPDATES OR VARIATIONS

    Varitaions
    1. instead of equipment, possible to make building buffs? Obviously it can be changed accordingly by whatever the Devs Think is Right. And obviously this comes in different types of materials and at better materials it improves Stats of the Items

    Attack Associated Buildings -
    Dual Wielding Weapons (Weapons Basically)
    Dual Swords, Maces and Such

    Defense Associated Buildings -
    Armor of Different Kinds
    Breasplates, Legs, Arms, Helms, Boots

    Balanced Buildings -
    Sword and Shields

    Spy Buildings -
    Throwing Knives
    Blow Darts
    Stealth Equipment...

    Spy Towers -
    Traps (Pit Traps, Arrow Traps, Net Traps)

    Defense Towers -
    Arrow Turrets, Oil Vats


    Updates
    1. Someone commented that the 200 Gold 200 Mith is alot here is an update of what I BELIEVE the best equipment of the Bars should be Worth

    (All Costs Based on the Amount I have Previously Said Each Should Be Worth)

    Bronze -
    250 Bronze Bars (7.5 Billion for the Best Item)

    Silver -
    200 Silver Bars (40 Billion For Best Item)

    Silver Mith -
    200 Silver Bars + 50 Mith (40 Billion + Mith)

    Gold -
    300 Gold Bars (300 Billion for the Best Item)

    Gold Mith -
    300 Gold Bars + 200 Mith (300 Billion + Mith)


    Comments
    1. It has come to my attention that people believe this will not help the gap between weak and strong players. This is not about decreasing the gap, but offering the ability for a weaker player to have the same fun as a stronger player. EBs are done by strength now a days, this is done by in game money as well however a player can still make weaker equipment with less stats and cost.
     
  2. Re: Use of bronze bars and on - Per moose request

    I actually really like this...

    I support. Depending on number of people who support, I will definitely send an email to devs.
     
  3. Re: Use of bronze bars and on - Per moose request

    Fascinating ideas
     
  4. Re: Use of bronze bars and on - Per moose request

    How would this equip compare to EE and EB equip? Any idea?
     
  5. Re: Use of bronze bars and on - Per moose request

    It would be a forge.

    Awesome idea
     
  6. Re: Use of bronze bars and on - Per moose request

    I would think Silver would be better than EB, but less than EE.

    Bronze would be a lower form (but still good for low stats)

    Gold would be equal to EE, same as silver* mixed with mith.

    And gold mixed with mith would be the top. It would be nearly comparable to ASW equip (but not quite).

    EDIT: Changed bronze into silver at the *
     
  7. Re: Use of bronze bars and on - Per moose request

    I would make the top tiered items of gold and mith mix better and gold around the same. The silver items just below because of the fact that weaker players can make, and bronze are about 1/2 to a quarter weaker because they are for the weaker players who can't hit the high EBs which give good items
     
  8. Re: Use of bronze bars and on - Per moose request

    I think this has potential to get of the ground support
     
  9. Re: Use of bronze bars and on - Per moose request

    Yea chis said it better than me... Moose if it's at all possible can you make a hold spot below my original post for updates?
     
  10. Re: Use of bronze bars and on - Per moose request

    What I think would be neat - instead of (or in addition to) making equip itself, you can make "buffs" for your equip - each buff is a particular stat bonus and you can only place one on each piece of equip. This gives equip a more strategic aspect.
     
  11. Re: Use of bronze bars and on - Per moose request

    The reason I didn't do that shol is because of the current upgrade system in place with the Mage... It's just re using that idea of buffing equipment
     
  12. Re: Use of bronze bars and on - Per moose request

    This is an interesting idea...

    In another game I play, there is this thing called statting/dirty statting.

    Basically you go into the arcane transmutor, having 3 Fusion Stones, turn them into mana stones,
    and you then can put those mana stones into a piece of equipment.

    Now, while the idea itself is incredible, and fairly unique to games of its particular genre, I don't know
    how well it will cross over to KaW.

    But a type of dirty statting/statting would be amazing.

    Might finally get to use that plunder bonus % :D
     
  13. Re: Use of bronze bars and on - Per moose request

    The Mage is a set upgrade though - everybody gets the same bonus change. This would allow variation. Eliminates the fact that of everybody has max level equip it's like nobody has it.
     
  14. Re: Use of bronze bars and on - Per moose request

    Fully support. Great idea!
     
  15. Re: Use of bronze bars and on - Per moose request

    Or we can revamp the Mage system to do that. 
     
  16. Re: Use of bronze bars and on - Per moose request

    Eh it's alright shol good try
     
  17. Re: Use of bronze bars and on - Per moose request

    Support.
     
  18. Re: Use of bronze bars and on - Per moose request

    Support.
     
  19. Re: Use of bronze bars and on - Per moose request

    Bump
     
  20. Re: Use of bronze bars and on - Per moose request

    Support