Interesting, so OSF gone. OSW, everyone drop all BFA, make sure you pay less? Strips a thing of the past ?
No Support for this change if im reading it right. Going to be tough to strip someone. Soon as you buy their allies, they start paying crap on spies actions.
Personally, when has OSW been about making money. First of all strips, when you strip someone as far as I can see in this thread you still take the same percentage of money per steal. You TAKE money away from them isn't that the whole point of stripping, not making money, besides personally, steals don't give that much. Second, hitting all you LB players who are oh so very special. I'm going to use Resilient_0ne as an example, he practically dropped all his DP and equipment and at my attack stats without mith or attack pots would definitely fail. So yes all you special LB players would make less players hitting smaller players but, again OSW for me isn't about making money, that is what EBs are here for. Lastly, of course keep in mind in this example small players can't hit you some you may appear at DTS and even if you weren't they would lose more because to succesfully hit you they need pots, mith or whatever. Third and last, I for one can say I always lose money in OSW wether fighting with or against the "winning" side. OSW is about perseverance, how long you can last, how long you can last without upgrades and all that ****. That's why after every OSW there are EBs you can do to take back the money and make more even during if who you are OSWing with sucks.
I have a serious question here. So now the best thing for me to do is not grow, get all the equipment. Even if its ebs equipment. Since xtals and nobility to grow is a waste. Then keep no allies other than a plunder ally with no stats. That way my BFA doesn't change? Maybe I would even consider using no defense pots. Then find the biggest farm available. Idk? Doesn't sound like much fun anymore. I can't keep up with the changes. Anyway!! We need a decisive decision so we know what to do. A lot of people are patiently waiting for your fixes. And please don't upset the money in the game. Lol we don't want pop up ads either.
LMAO I can't wait for the developers message asking for a 5 star rating again well done devs I see a 1 star app coming up. It never seems to amaze me they try to make the game more pvp friendly then they do this.
Im not talking about the amount of cash you make, im talking about the time it will take to perform a successful strip after these changes. Especially on larger BFA accounts.
What? Sorry don't know what you're talking about. Again as far as I can see in this update you still take the same percentage of money when you strip someone. And if this is about making money TO strip someone (what??) I'm sorry as far as I know making the money to strip someone comes from using max xtals on EB or making banks and ally hires, not hitting someone in an OSW.
Remembrance. One problem, who wants bfa now? It hurts your plunder in EE and pvp, again eb only players keep doing what you doing no change, the point of increased bfa is strength to hit more opponents and bfa to protect that ability as well. Now your bfa hurts your plunder, you get farned from smaller who take more, burn your pots but you can't hurt them back equally. In EE war now you can't hit nearly as many people because you would be wasting actions for no plunder on more people. In debating starting a osw on hopes I get stripped. What's point in bfa?
Well if thats the case @rememberance then i am reading it wrong (i did caveat my post with that comment) The op say's this effects spy actions as well. So if i clear an account of all its BFA. The way im reading it, it becomes harder to take the cash ?
Eric as a long term player (contrary to my achievement I'm a 2009 player people that know of my clan and of me will verify) I've seen many changes in KaW but changing the plunder so drastically for anyone with a decent bfa is not going to help a player versus player environment, which clan will take on all the top (for example) 100 lb players and find a war now? They are the only ones that can earn decent plunder against each other. What is the point of reaching for the prestige of lb now? I can't see 1 single reason there a hell of a lot of guild hansels out there with low bfa that are going to reap the benefits from estoc wars I mean what is the point of me putting up more volaries now and not just dropping buildings back to my 2010 build of guilds? Talk about devolution!
business Business BUSINESS as usual david and goliath is true you can get more on those richest kingdom how come most of the complainers wants to squeeze more golds on the poorest guy??? its a logic. your rich your kingdom is bigger - you pay more. your new and your poor -- you pay and less tax is given. but as you see you use more troops to success hit on big guys. that means less number of hits. more effort you need. so mr.billgates want to earn more on the poor guy??? lol
Is this net to fix the gh problem in war? I just hit a gh with 3x my bfa and only made 975k yet they hit me and plunder war 44m
Point of BFA? In EE - the fact that small players will still most likely fail on you, the fact that they can't make money off you. You on the other hand with small players making no money off you you can practically make money off them because you are all so mighty. Its pretty fair that you make less money by hitting them when they can't make money off you in my opinion anyways. And of course to those who can succesfully hit you LB players, my guess is you can still make decent money off them. In OSW - again OSW ain't about making money its taking. Want money EBs are there.
:lol: good job ATA way screw over your biggest players :lol: I really hope this wasnt their attempt to fix gh's in EE wars because if so this is the a big fail
Oh and @Bellum, Lol I don't know if you are reading it wrong or I am. The way I read it it just means to me that you still take the same percetage of gold from them but you just make less?
Ok so I only have a mp ally and just did some tests attack against player with 150kcs lower then me, 1.2tril in allies full pots. 48mil attack against bc Hansel 1tril allies 8 defense pots 58mil attack against player with 1milcs higher then me 400bil in allies full pots. 52mil These numbers are all lower then what I used to get with pvp plunder so I think this system needs some tweaking
This is crazy... Why won't they take into account BFE? Why is it so untouchable? Everyone but the top 300 Allie LB players get more static strength from their equipment than their allies!!!' My build for example - ranked right at 1,500 on Allie LB (taken 3 years of constant attacking through battle list - pwars - EB's - crystals - smart Allie trading - so much time and money) Yields me a whopping 27/24/15/17mill in BFA My equip stats 110/70/100/75 mill BFE The new equipment that can fill all slots won as a side note hitting EB's or warring for only 3 months is 5 times stronger than my bonus from allies!!!! Why in the world would devs ignore this in their new payout according to strength calculation? It's BFE - their new baby that is the major issue - all they did with this update is minimize years of loyalty and take away 1 of the main goals of any player to climb the leader board!!! If you want to fix payouts and guild builds damn it make every land explored worth a certain dollar amount (say 500k) a build complete anything would pay 25 mill - you then can add another static amount paid per building - last is a % higher for beating someone higher strength (True Strength with BFE included) - pots stay the same in payout calc. So a guild with full BFE and no BFA would still payout in wars, would still have plunder advantage attack for attack (beating better buildings which pay more %difference of strength) but has all his disadvantages of being small stats (easy to assassinate and win % of attacks is close to 100) Pay for the higher priced servers and processors it would take to factor in what equipment is on each player at the time of attack to determine the % dollar boost you get if defeating a stronger opponent. A static dollar amount paid per defeating a land the building = payout Increase it a % for how much stronger opponent is but leave the static amount there no matter what! Strong builds will make less attacking smalls (only win static amount) but it won't be so ridiculous that it makes getting strong almost a disadvantage - AND RECOGNIZE YOUR EQUIPMENT STRENGTH IS CRAZY STRONG STOP IGNORING IT!!!! You will never get truly even matchups in wars or true payouts according to strength by ignoring it and only concerning yourself with BFA which has been earned through YEARS of loyal customer usage!