Rogue why do you have to hit the enter button? just keep hittin the repeact action button. and did you understand what kaw admin was saying? they went to differrent parts of the UI and clicked the exact same coords. Proph never liked you but that ballin comment was a win.
@Weezus We don't use screenshots to determine if a person is cheating or not. If we ever ask for one, it's only to understand why the reporting individual thinks that the person is cheating and gives us a direction for the investigation (cheating includes many different areas other than bots, you can find this information in the ToS).
@Vlad Yes and NO. When money is used things change. I've seen it in a few MMO's. If PB and MB did decide to go through with some sort of legal action if the proof for botting is not there then ATA can be in real big trouble. Slander/Defamation. Real names aren't needed to do so.
And your reply to the reinstatement of certain accounts but not others and only after they've been stripped clean?
Aah, skim read. Saw same pixel every time and replied. Oh yeah they botted and should be banned permanently. Open farm! Get in!
@ KAW-ADMIN several players in the last year have been banned. Then later fully reimbursed for gold lost. This simple act sets forth that if you falsely ban that you show preferential treatment to some. And not to other who have been banned then reinstated and lost all. Get your **** together it's either one or the other. You wanna refund some and screw others. Seems a little biased to me
I'm pretty sure they have botted. Why else would they ban a paying customer? Face it, they botted, and you have to take the consequences.
IGCB... When we install this we agree with TOU isn't it? Our accounts are ATA's property... If tomorow ATA wants to take away my account there is nothing I can do except saying that ATA suck balls. But I can't go to a law suit considering that the account is not mine. Think like that: you rent a house, you live there couple of years. Meanwhile you pay expenses. One day the owner of house decide to demolish the house. There is anything you can do?
@kaw admin since your so active in forums at min what about those players that mask there ip address using a virtual private network? Are these likely to be banned for possibly looking like it has multiple users looking in on there account?
Weez, that is a valid point. Many have been falsely banned in the past. You have good points. If you want a reason for the ban, good luck. I'll tell what I think it was - at the time of my ban ATA and I were very close. I was able to get things done quickly for players and help get ideas and thoughts to ATA. If you wanted in All Star War you contacted me if you didn't make sign ups and time and I got ya in. Many rumors started that I was Dev and later after Laoda name was changed, which had nothing to do with me or the two mods that lost their positions over it(but had everything to do with Res_Val who made the report) Zaft employed old school tactics stating I was claiming to be a dev and yada yada. ATA put in an insta-ban and that was that. After many weeks of back and forth with ATA they weren't able to provide any details as to why I was banned, not even a reason. This is what I believe was the cause of my ban and the demodding of two mods, but until ATA states an actually reason, nobody will ever know so don't fret on it. Idk why you think poppa is innocent of this. He was busted long ago for botting by ata and he even admitted it to them. That's why he was asked to beta test the war system with a few other botters I won't name, in order to see if they could exploit the new payment system being added. You really think he dropped millions of pots and is able to stay dtw when he owns his owns and runs his tech company? Get real
I just love how people (not saying any names) insist on arguing with the very people who created this game. It greatly amuses me
Yarmes-- good point. Some of us live busy lives n always moving around.im interested if IP changes would get you banned.
Val I assume that identification is made not only trough IP adress but also trough MAC adress and UDID/IMEI code.
Yay! Im happy to agree w/ kaw_admin for a change. I support the bot ban AND the naming of the guilty. RL criminals dont escape newspaper publishing, why should ToU violations avoid any postings? They knew the rules. I am in no way affiliated w/ zaft, so dont think im biased. Enjoy ur ban, poppa and momma.
@ KaW Admin Thanks for sharing the activity log information with us. However, if this is the way KaW defect botting, I am terrified. I am not questioning the technical detail you are providing, I am concern about the assumption and banning process. 1. The assumption of a "real player" is that he/she has to "look" in order to play. It is not true if you play this game for a long time. Since KaW's game console layout stay the same, people played a long time don't need to "visually confirm" before they click. I personally unloaded many times without looking while I am watching TV. 2. Another assumption is that "pixel should change". It is also not true if you are a gamer. There is track ball and game mouse, some even provides short cut, which will in this case, consider as botting by your system. 3. If this system is as perfect as claimed, then there will be no innocent players who banned for nothing and get re-open account recently. This system may be targeting most of the KaW community, but it will provide fault indication for the people who are really playing. I understand nothing is perfect. This system is trying its best to banner cheaters. However, I am hoping KaW can improve its banning process. 1. If KaW is banning a player, please block incoming attacks as well. KaW is banning a person only because they "assume" he/she is botting. The Banned players has no control of his/her account. During the banned time, he/she may got stripped. Even later on, when his name is cleared and account re-opened, the damage is done. 2. Communicate with the player before and after banning. No analytic is 100% accurate and certainly not the analytic method KaW is using. Please, communicate with the player. If you need to ban right away, then lock incoming and talk to the player after. Understanding is the key. 3. If there are people "tips" KaW for banners, please make this "tips" process public. Thanks for your understanding.