This Week's Updates -------------------------- Upgraded Matchmaking System We saw the response the community gave to the Crystal idea, and decided not to move ahead with that. Instead, we spent all weekend here at ATA rewriting the matchmaking system. We ran it against the old data, and found that it consistently produces better matchups. This new system will be in place and ready to go for this week's upcoming wars. While we know that the match ups will be better, we wanted to address some common player feedback that we are seeing: We a ranked 8 levels lower than XXXX. This is unfair! We have adjusted how the system calculate ranks. Before, ranks were based on strength. While this was useful, it was misleading to you, the players. A strength rank of #2 compared to #8 doesn't actually mean much, especially if ranks #2 to #8 are all relatively the same strength. We will now publish a match rank number, which should provide a more accurate display of your rank within that day's Estoc Trials Signup. The other team has 1/2/3 more members than our clan! This is unfair! While we agree that a huge difference in members can be unfair, we can never remove the possibility that match ups will have slight differences in sizes. With our new system, it will help alleviate this somewhat. However, it will never remove it. Please remember that we are bound by the clans who sign up, and to not expect a mirror image opponent to fight against. Estoc Trial Season 1! We are still finalizing the details for this, but here is a sneak peak at what we have planned. If you have ideas, or feedback, feel free to respond in this thread. * Season 1 will run for about 12 weeks * It will end with an All Star War, where the best players who have participated will be eligible for * We will introduce the concept of 2 hour wars * For the 4 hour wars, we will increase the payouts * We will have rewards for regular season participation, and all star war participation. Re-enabling System Wars System wars will be re-enabled on Monday. A reminder of what will occur once we do this: * All war tax is removed, so you'll get more gold per action * There will be no payouts (neither Mithril or Gold) The reason for making this change is due to our data indicating that a significant amount of system wars were started purely with the intent to acquire Mithril, with no intent to actually war. Mithril, and the equipment that Mithril earns you, are rewards that only players who participate in a real war environment should receive. Players who use System wars as a means of settling a grudge, or creating practice sessions, are still able to do so with this change. Red Paladin Equipment We will be pushing out 1 more piece of the Red Paladin set this Friday! Only a few pieces left... Estoc Trials Times -------------------------- Signup: 6 hours prior to War Start Time Duration: 4 hours Matchmaking: 2 hours prior to War Start Time (Must sign up before this, rosters lock at this point) Activity Lock: Approximately 1 hour prior to the earliest War Start Time Start Time: This can vary up to 15 minutes. This will be reflected in your war timer. War #1 - War Start Time Shown Roster Size: 30-45 PST - Wednesday - 4am-4:30am EST - Wednesday - 7am-7:30am GMT - Wednesday - 12pm-12:30pm SGT - Wednesday - 8pm-8:30pm War #2 - War Start Time Shown Roster Size: 30-45 PST - Thursday - 12pm-12:30pm EST - Thursday - 3pm-3:30pm GMT - Thursday - 8pm-8:30pm SGT - Friday - 4am-4:30am War #3 - War Start Time Shown Roster Size: 30-60 PST - Friday - 6pm-6:30pm EST - Friday - 9pm-9:30pm GMT - Saturday - 2am-2:30am SGT - Saturday - 10am-10:30am War #4 - War Start Time Shown Roster Size: 30-60 PST - Saturday - 1pm-1:30pm EST - Saturday - 4pm-4:30pm GMT - Saturday - 9pm-9:30pm SGT - Sunday - 5am-5:30am War #5 - War Start Time Shown Roster Size: 30-60 PST - Sunday - 6am-6:30am EST - Sunday - 9am-9:30am GMT - Sunday - 2pm-2:30pm SGT - Sunday - 10pm-10:30pm Estoc Trials FAQ -------------------------- Q: Matchups are not fair/balanced/equal! A: We try our best to create the best possible matchups, taking into account everyone that signs up. Due to the # of signups we have, it's impossible to create a perfect matchup for everyone. We are looking into some possible solutions for this, one of which is to adjust the minimum and maximum clan sizes. Q: The lag is horrible and it is causing us to lose the war! A: This is a complex issue, and hopefully this explanation will put to rest some of the questions that have been brought up. A common situation where a delay in processing actions happens when one player receives many incoming actions. The player that is receiving this action will most likely experience the "spinner" for several seconds when they try to do an action themselves. At the end of this, they will receive a notice that says that they were knocked out. This is a point of frustration for many as they feel that if the spinner had not come up, they would not be knocked out. While our servers may take a few seconds to resolve all of the actions (it can be easily over 20 at once), we do record when we receive each action and the action that was triggered first will receive the Knock Out. Chances are, if you had 9 incoming actions and you tried to attack, you chances of being the first action is ~10%. To reiterate, while it may take our servers some time to determine the results, the results are fair and the first action that was performed will go through. Now, we are doing what we can to reduce the amount of waiting time players experience, and have been upgrading our hardware to accommodate for the number of actions that occur during Estoc Trials. Q: Will the war times change week to week? A: We will continue to examine and improve the wartimes, offering a larger variety of times and size restrictions to best suit our players. Next Week? -------------------------- * Have something you want to talk about? Reply to this thread and we may add it to next week's discussions!
Also: Can you guys make It so that we can buy at least 50 myth a day? And the limit is 200? Just a thought
Well this is the end to systems wars. There's only going to be EE and OSW wars from now on. I find it hard to believe that 2 clans will do a system war just to settle things when they can easily just go into OSW mode and get better results.
Thanks for the update. I look forward to the new match-up system and the new Estoc Trial Season 1. Any idea on when the details for it will be released or when it'll start?
Hey devs, this news is exciting for me and everyone else. But I made a thread about health crystal use that recieved a lot of support (almost everyone that read, supported it), so feel free to check it out. Ps, I have done it in a way to make you devs make a profit as well Link: viewtopic.php?f=11&t=129414 Anyone else is free to check it out
good to know that you're working on matchups cas its really meesed up..BTW what is the tentative dates for Estoc war Trial 1? and is there any limitations for players? TY in advance
Well hello i have been offline for a little while and i see we have some new Mods congratulations. I know your not asking us to vote on the new system war set up but i like :mrgreen: the idea. * All war tax is removed, so you'll get more gold per action <-- love it * There will be no payouts (neither Mithril or Gold) < --i like the no mithril for system wars. :evil: Learn how to war and earn Mithril the right way :evil: . Disappointed :| (maybe gold.. depending on number of action) reward for activity would be nice. :shock: Smaller clan size i love. i would still like to see a 10-20 vs.10-20 day. maybe for a 2 hours war. i think it would be exciting . just a thought. :mrgreen: * It will end with an All Star War, where the best players who have participated will be eligible for :geek: <-- confused on how your going to pick the best players (ko's, gold, action, ) but i'm sure you will let us know. :ugeek: * We will introduce the concept of 2 hour wars <--(Please lower clan size) :? * For the 4 hour wars, we will increase the payouts <--( Nice. counting regen time for 4 hours makes my head hurts) :lol: Above all else the the improve i like the most is YOU asking us what we Like. <--love that one. :mrgreen: You Dev's and Mod's are doing a great job keep it up. Brains ~Zombie
It's still a fail, devs, regarding numbers. . Even you admit that "it will never alleviate that". The problem isn't with 1/2/3 differences. It is with 25-50%more players. I use percentages because that is more important than the actual number of players. The solution is simple. If a clan can't be matched within a certain percentage difference say 20% on strength and 10% in numbers then they don't get matched for war for that event. I have been on many wars both winning and losing when the numbers and/or strength is horribly lopsided. The war is not fun for either side. I think you will find more clans willing to sign up for the trials IF they know they won't get saddled with an unwinnable matchup. There is very little downside to running this automatic exclusion. The clans involved get a notice saying why they can't war then continue on with their eb. I know that personally I would prefer to continue with eb as opposed to be involved in a 2 hour whack a mole fest.
Don't take myth away from regular wars, I'm not going to go through the whole "estoc trials" thing to earn like 4 mith
Full support on what pumellor said. 80% of my wars have been like this and it's stupid. Maybe limit clan size to only 40-45? Or something like that? But again, I would much rather not war than to be stuck in a war that's determined before it starts
Why not reduce the gap between min and max nos of members for war, this will also reduce the chances of 2 clan having huge nos difference in nos of members for the war. E.g min 30 max 40 for war 1 & 2 and min 40 max 50 for war 3 -5.
brilliant you noticed the xtal thing wasn't making the player base happy bit you failed to notice the system war payout. not everyone can do your estocs you know? times suck and not everybody can afford to spend 4full hours without time to breathe to war on them. bring back the mith on system war or bring back the sales. guess no paladin equipment for me.