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Charms have ruined KaW. Change my mind️

Postby Karma on Oct 9 2018, 12:26am

Usually I wouldn’t drop any kinda bombs but I’m feelin spicy today. Let’s get into it.

Charms have ruined KaW, change my mind. ️

Those of you who might think new lands are a big deal, they’re not. Charms are the only thing that matter in this game anymore. With the PvP farms, emulators, charm farms etc, the game will be unplayable for those not willing to spend $700-$800 each event for stacks of 100. By Christmas 300b will be normal.

That shouldn’t be the case. Charms alone have single handedly ruined this game. If bfa actually meant anything, CR and Tangra wouldn’t be in the position that they are in. Huge lbs crippled because apoc/wdgaf lbs heavily stacked charms to beat them. Bfa is harder to acquire regardless of all of these promos. Which is why they acquired so much charms.

People don’t just get given charms. Especially in stacks of 100, totalling 70-80b per event. They’re acquired via 3rd party apps. You, the developers cannot stand aside and turn a blind eye. I also understand that there’s not really much you can do with regards to 3rd party apps, only drastic changes on here, such as making charms not trade-able, would solve such an issue, but equally you can’t afford to do that. You aren’t making profit on this. And you are only making 10% of what charm farmers are making. They’re exploiting your system. It’s too late now though, take away what people have already acquired, and the game is done. Instead we’re now all stuck in a declining game, all because of the new charms system which you foolishly unleashed upon us all. The main reason why is because charms are trade-able. The game would arguably be in a much healthier state than it is in now, if charms weren’t trade-able.

Also, if charms weren’t trade-able, it would encourage players to play more and try harder to reach the next event tier.

This game has seriously lost its way. Bfa and stats don’t mean anything. You can get hundreds of billions in charms in minutes just by opening your wallet. Provided you’re within hit range of your target, you can crush them. Even if you’re 1/4 their size. I opened my eyes and realised that actually. Why? Spending thousands on a tap tap game just to ensure victory? Anyone in the real world would call us a bunch of idiots.

The game is ruined and it’ll never go back to being great again. We’re too far gone into this mess for any drastic changes to occur. I’m already not acquiring anymore charms, but having checked out a bunch of peoples showcases, they have stacks of each charm from current and recent events, of 100. For every exploit that gets patched, 1-2 more are discovered.

Furniture isn’t so bad, as it is actually capped, only 1 piece per slot and a max level of 10. Sure, everyone is on a level playing field which then means that bfa is still the king. Same goes for equipment. Only 1 piece per slot, max level of 10-13 depending on the event and equipment. That still means bfa is the king.

“Stop complaining and adapt” I have adapted. As my 330b charms and max furniture suggests. It’s nice being able to farm top 5 ally lbs with ease, but my showcase will be normal by Christmas and irrelevant by February. You guys who wanna keep spending, keep spending, its your money, do what you want with it. It’ll all be wasted when the servers shut down.

“But charms balance out the Lb” technically they do. As I can farm pretty much anyone now. Technically they don’t, as they can also be acquired by anyone including those lbs that I can farm. Meaning that if they acquire as much as I have, they’re still stronger, as they have more bfa than I do. Meaning that I now have to spend more to beat them. And you see, this is exactly the cycle that Wdgaf/Apoc went through early on when they got into osw with DEM. And congrats to them, they’ve obliterated Tangra (Tweety was a huge help) and CR is just a bunch of loyalists who remain to defend the clans legacy/reputation, even though they’re pretty much done. (They should throw in the towel tbh)

I have nothing against any clans or anybody on here really. Just to clear that one up.

I’m done caring about the game. Why? Because I’m looking into the future of the game. It is messy. It is dark. New players won’t stand a chance. Why? Because of charms. New players will be encouraged to spend as much as they can just to be able to compete with literally anybody. Let’s face it, all it would take is someone to make an alt, keep it at GH stats, load it with charms and just like that, you have an acc that can and will drive new players away.

We haven’t even gotten into the indi war aspect of it yet.

So charms even affect system wars! Yea. They do. We got small players such as Link, foxy, Diudiu, dragon heart knight, bliss, musang, imperfectone, who all stay at the same stats. Why? A few reasons. They’re lower on the clan roster so generally speaking they get less attention, they’re small so it’s not worth plundering them, and they can even at that size, take down lb players. How? With charms!

I honestly think that system wars should have been heavily revamped, charm rewards for doing PvP and/or system wars should have superior stats to the eb charm rewards. Maybe give the top 10 charms rewards a special effect, if you want any ideas for effects then go check out Kurisu’s thread on new mith equipment, there’s some brilliant ideas there. And mith equipment also, create new equipment for each season or event, buff the stats to current levels, make them look great, give them effects, it would be worth the investment, you’d breathe new life into wars. Just look at how well the new war type was received, I haven’t tried it yet but it looks absolutely great! The new war type has already increased the system war population. But you don’t see any profit in that. You want profit? Make a damn effort, listen to the community and act on it.

So any of you wondering why I’m quitting, this is why. The game has run its course and it’s never been in decline to this scale before.

And don’t even think about locking the thread or silencing me, for mentioning cheating systems or purchasing of in game items via 3rd party apps. The black market is very real and the evidence for it is everywhere. Just because it’s not politically correct to mention those things, doesn’t mean they shouldn’t be mentioned.
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Re: Charms have ruined KaW. Change my mind️

Postby Venom on Oct 9 2018, 12:35am

I sold and quit months ago. This is all I have left.
I got rid of 400b+, why? The writing was always on the wall.
KaW's income is from LBs and players who wanted BFA / to BC.

When ATA decided to allow charms and not have any quality control check on them, it ruined the economy.

We had the furniture cloning glitch for 6 months.
Charms didn't work for half a year. Smh.

Took them months to shut down the NK farms, but it still happens just with bigger builds now. Take a look if y'all don't believe me.

Pumping in Qs of stats via charms, BFA is pointless.
So, who's going to spend on stats / BC or BFA when one can get charms much cheaper on the black market and take on way bigger builds?

The game is dead. Like you said, the game is too far gone to fix. So ATA ignores it, they keep it running as long as it churn some profits. When that stops... Which it will.
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Re: Charms have ruined KaW. Change my mind️

Postby oG-28 on Oct 9 2018, 12:36am

Unfortunately, the devs dont care.

Charms make people buy seals and open chests, which in turn fills devs pockets which at the end of the day is all they care about.

All your points are fact. Why should an account half (or less than) someones size be able to hit them just because they spent $2000 on charms? It makes no sense at all.

And yet they wonder why players complain 24/7 ..
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Re: Charms have ruined KaW. Change my mind️

Postby Original_Belladonna on Oct 9 2018, 1:15am

You would think the devs would care about lost income, these charm sellers are selling for real money in third part chat apps. Things they get for free. A lot of the Charm farmers have alts, so that is another way they get their supply, some players have 40 alts so you get all those charms from just hitting ebs. They then in turn sell them. I’ve seen charms go for $15+ per billion in charms.

And of course, ATA says they can’t do anything about Charm selling on third party apps. It definitely makes it hard on any new players, the immense cheating and exploitation that occurs right under ATA’s nose. One would think that something that is digging into ATA’s profits would cause them to change the direction of the system of charms. Apparently that isn’t the case. I think we should get ATA involved in this conversation as it’s a well thought out and informative piece of dialogue.
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Re: Charms have ruined KaW. Change my mind️

Postby llNElll-DEMON-lllNEll on Oct 9 2018, 1:24am

If you are all quitting just give me your charms :)
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Re: Charms have ruined KaW. Change my mind️

Postby MH-LiquidSpirit on Oct 9 2018, 1:49am

What you doing with those charms
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Re: Charms have ruined KaW. Change my mind️

Postby empire_foxygirl on Oct 9 2018, 2:06am

Karma wrote:Usually I wouldn’t drop any kinda bombs but I’m feelin spicy today. Let’s get into it.

Charms have ruined KaW, change my mind. ️

Those of you who might think new lands are a big deal, they’re not. Charms are the only thing that matter in this game anymore. With the PvP farms, emulators, charm farms etc, the game will be unplayable for those not willing to spend $700-$800 each event for stacks of 100 . By Christmas 300b will be normal.

That shouldn’t be the case. Charms alone have single handedly ruined this game. If bfa actually meant anything, CR and Tangra wouldn’t be in the position that they are in. Huge lbs crippled because apoc/wdgaf lbs spent thousands to beat them. Bfa is harder to acquire regardless of all of these promos. Which is why they spent so much. Think about it, they all mock Tangra for spending so much on those huge accs but... nobody stops to think about how much they spent and still spend on charms. It is arguably higher. Much higher.

And yea, I am gunna say that people have spent thousands, because they have. People don’t just get given charms. Especially in stacks of 100 , totalling 70-80b per event. You, the developers cannot stand aside and turn a blind eye. You aren’t making profit on this. And you are only making 10% of what charm sellers are making. They’re exploiting your system. It’s too late now though, take away what people have spent thousands on and the game is done. Instead we’re now all stuck in a declining game, all because of the new charms system which you foolishly unleashed upon us all. The main reason why is because charms are trade-able. The game would arguably be in a much healthier state than it is in now, if charms weren’t trade-able.

Also, if charms weren’t trade-able, it would encourage players to play more and try harder to reach the next event tier.

This game has seriously lost its way. Bfa and stats don’t mean anything. You can get hundreds of billions in charms in minutes just by opening your wallet. Provided you’re within hit range of your target, you can crush them. Even if you’re 1/4 their size. I opened my eyes and realised that actually. Why? Spending thousands on a tap tap game just to ensure victory? Anyone in the real world would call us a bunch of idiots.

The game is ruined and it’ll never go back to being great again. We’re too far gone into this mess for any drastic changes to occur. I’m already not spending anymore on charms, but having checked out a bunch of peoples showcases, they have stacks of each charm from current and recent events, of 100 . For every exploit that gets patched, 1-2 more are discovered.

Furniture isn’t so bad, as it is actually capped, only 1 piece per slot and a max level of 10. Sure, everyone is on a level playing field which then means that bfa is still the king. Same goes for equipment. Only 1 piece per slot, max level of 10-13 depending on the event and equipment. That still means bfa is the king.

“Stop complaining and adapt” I have adapted. As my 330b charms and max furniture suggests. It’s nice being able to farm top 5 ally lbs with ease, but my showcase will be normal by Christmas and irrelevant by February. You guys who wanna keep spending, keep spending, its your money, do what you want with it. It’ll all be wasted when the servers shut down.

“But charms balance out the Lb” technically they do. As I can farm pretty much anyone now. Technically they don’t, as they can also be acquired by anyone including those lbs that I can farm. Meaning that if they acquire as much as I have, they’re still stronger, as they have more bfa than I do. Meaning that I now have to spend more to beat them. And you see, this is exactly the cycle that Wdgaf/Apoc went through early on when they got into osw with DEM. And congrats to them, they’ve obliterated Tangra (Tweety was a huge help) and CR is just a bunch of loyalists who remain to defend the clans legacy/reputation, even though they’re pretty much done. (They should throw in the towel tbh)

I have nothing against any clans or anybody on here really. Just to clear that one up.

I’m done caring about the game. Why? Because I’m looking into the future of the game. It is messy. It is dark. New players won’t stand a chance. Why? Because of charms. New players will be encouraged to spend as much as they can just to be able to compete with literally anybody. Let’s face it, all it would take is someone to make an alt, keep it at GH stats, load it with charms and just like that, you have an acc that can and will drive new players away.

We haven’t even gotten into the indi war aspect of it yet.

So charms even affect system wars! Yea. They do. We got small players such as Link, foxy, Diudiu, dragon heart knight, bliss, musang, imperfectone, who all stay at the same stats. Why? A few reasons. They’re lower on the clan roster so generally speaking they get less attention, they’re small so it’s not worth plundering them, and they can even at that size, take down lb players. How? With charms!

I honestly think that system wars should have been heavily revamped, charm rewards for doing PvP and/or system wars should have superior stats to the eb charm rewards. Maybe give the top 10 charms rewards a special effect, if you want any ideas for effects then go check out Kurisu’s thread on new mith equipment, there’s some brilliant ideas there. And mith equipment also, create new equipment for each season or event, buff the stats to current levels, make them look great, give them effects, it would be worth the investment, you’d breathe new life into wars. Just look at how well the new war type was received, I haven’t tried it yet but it looks absolutely great! The new war type has already increased the system war population. But you don’t see any profit in that. You want profit? Make a damn effort, listen to the community and act on it.

So any of you wondering why I’m quitting, this is why. The game has run its course and it’s never been in decline to this scale before.

And don’t even think about locking the thread or silencing me, for mentioning cheating systems or purchasing of in game items via 3rd party apps. The black market is very real and the evidence for it is everywhere. Just because it’s not politically correct to mention those things, doesn’t mean they shouldn’t be mentioned.


I dont grow because no gold to ug, i dont hit eb much, i mostly do wars, my plunder on eb sucks because of my towers
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Re: Charms have ruined KaW. Change my mind️

Postby empire_foxygirl on Oct 9 2018, 2:10am

Not because i dont wanna ug its just that i dont have time for ebs, and mostly im doin wars, if i have a chance to ug why not :)
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Re: Charms have ruined KaW. Change my mind️

Postby TheWolfOfKaWStreet on Oct 9 2018, 3:40am

1• Charms / Furniture

2• Influx of gold via making HTE permanent [in general paid EBs] (before it was only brought out during special promos)

3• Making new lands in order to (attempt) to have some of that gold go back into the game thus FURTHERING the gap that was already there

4• I say attempt because a good deal of that excess gold went into allies which inflated that market as well

5• The game losing its touch with the origins of the game which is warring and PvP
[This is something that's been happening for a while but now worse than ever]

This is my analysis, feel free to give criticism.
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Re: Charms have ruined KaW. Change my mind️

Postby AshtonRocks on Oct 9 2018, 4:09am

Karma wrote:Usually I wouldn’t drop any kinda bombs but I’m feelin spicy today. Let’s get into it.


I usually use pepto in a scenario like that.

But yeah charms have thrown things a bit out of wack.
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