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Do Moderators really serve a purpose or are they out dated?

Postby illIIlIHOLYIlIIlDOMOIlIlIIi on Sep 25 2018, 9:34am

Do mods really serve a purpose or are they out dated?

Hey forum nerds I’m writing this thread as a think piece whether or not moderators serve a purpose in this game anymore. Somewhere in the middle of my 7years in KaW I took a break and ventured out into some other online games. Similar war games where things can get heated and world chat was actually world chat. It was to my surprise that I saw in wc a bypass. I waited for a moderator to bash the guy and silence him. The player kept posting and had long conversations with others in wc. I was a little freaked. So I tested it. Dropped a F bomb in wc and waited. Nothing. So I asked my clan members ......what the hell?
The response I got is that there was no moderators. Shocking especially coming from a heavily moderated game I didn’t know what to think.

All the online games out there pretty much has the same tou with self moderating, but ata may be the only with the old practice of actual Moderators. You know the green army. These other games I speak of have the blocking capabilities, you could get froze out pretty fast I’ve seen it happen. It was very much self regulated. Kaw has those capabilities already. I as a player can report inappropriate content to the devs by just holding on the post and following the prompt, or I can block a player. Many of you guys play other games and have had the same experiences. So I pose the question.....

Do moderators any longer serve a purpose in KaW ?

Now I ask that all of you posting share your experiences from other games and then answer the question. This thread is not a bash on certain mods but more of a debate on the position of mods. Let’s face it it takes a special someone to volunteer and then put up with say someone like me. LOL, but that’s how I want to play and I’m having fun doing it. This is and will be a major debate played out in every part of this game forever. I’m posting this to have the both sides comments heard and maybe put this debate to rest. So I ask for this not to be locked and let alone to play out. It’s a question to the community about their experiences in a non moderated vs a moderated game.

Please stay on topic. Let’s not give the ammo to lock.
Please share this with many. I’d like to see many comments as possible in this debate.

Domo thanks
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Re: Do Moderators really serve a purpose or are they out dated?

Postby NAT1501 on Sep 25 2018, 9:55am

I think mods should be able to permanently silence forum moaners
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Re: Do Moderators really serve a purpose or are they out dated?

Postby illIIlIHOLYIlIIlDOMOIlIlIIi on Sep 25 2018, 9:58am

NAT1501 wrote:I think mods should be able to permanently silence forum moaners



And off topic from the starting gate.

Has nothing to do with op at hand. Please again stay on topic and feel free post answer to the question and why?
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Re: Do Moderators really serve a purpose or are they out dated?

Postby RS-roni-RS on Sep 25 2018, 10:24am

When i left kaw i played another game. It also had no moderators and the sick an nasty things that were said they got away with for months. They would spread lies and claim.someone was a ​ and slander them and not long and all worldchat and friends were spreading and taunting it and turned everyone against them.it was sad to watch.So i have appreciation for kaw mods who keep it so nobody can be bullyied and slandered. People can enjoy the game better and in a more relaxed frame of mind. Knowing if anyone cruelly crossed the line then they would be quickly dealt with.
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Re: Do Moderators really serve a purpose or are they out dated?

Postby illIIlIHOLYIlIIlDOMOIlIlIIi on Sep 25 2018, 10:30am

RS-roni-RS wrote:When i left kaw i played another game. It also had no moderators and the sick an nasty things that were said they got away with for months. They would spread lies and claim.someone was a ​ and slander them and not long and all worldchat and friends were spreading and taunting it and turned everyone against them.it was sad to watch.So i have appreciation for kaw mods who keep it so nobody can be bullyied and slandered. People can enjoy the game better and in a more relaxed frame of mind. Knowing if anyone cruelly crossed the line then they would be quickly dealt with.


Thank you roni. I see your point and I also saw some of that. It also goes both ways here as well. That being said it also depended on what alliance you had joined. Most games had 2-3 prominent alliances that helped with the regulation of what you speak of , game time and rl time is very different as a week in game time is forgotten.
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Re: Do Moderators really serve a purpose or are they out dated?

Postby Rammy on Sep 25 2018, 10:30am

The answer to your question depends on what you expect of moderators.
In my opinion, moderators aren’t technically “required”. The game would function with or with out them.
HOWEVER, even though moderators aren’t required, they actually DO make the game better.
Moderators spur on discussion in WC, and are, in my opinion, kind of like face of ATA. They are community standard bearers as well as ATA representatives.
Although moderators can delete threads and silence players, their real value to the game is the public relations that they offer.
Moderators offer what I call a “halo” effect, casting a positive light on a social game.
Now, if you hate mods, then, you can disregard this post out of hand, but, for the most part, moderators are embraced by the majority of the community and they serve their function well.
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Re: Do Moderators really serve a purpose or are they out dated?

Postby illIIlIHOLYIlIIlDOMOIlIlIIi on Sep 25 2018, 10:41am

Rammy wrote:The answer to your question depends on what you expect of moderators.
In my opinion, moderators aren’t technically “required”. The game would technically function with or with out them.
HOWEVER, even though moderators aren’t required, they actually DO make the game better.
Moderators spur on discussion in WC, and are, in my opinion, kind of like face of ATA. They are community standard bearers as well as ATA representatives.
Although moderators can delete threads and silence players, their real value to the game is the public relations that they offer.
Moderators offer what I call a “halo” effect, casting a positive light on a social game.
Now, if you hate mods, then, you can disregard this post out of hand, but, for the most part, moderators are embraced by the majority of the community and they serve their function well.


Thanks for the post. We all know why I have disagreements and can debate you out right. What I see interesting in some of your response is that you feel they spark conversation in wc and that the majority of kaw likes the position. That’s exactly what I’m doing here....find out what the majority has to say. I dislike certain mods -made that clear as to whom- not the actual position per say. I’m trying to find that majority and tap into that. Great response for sure.
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Re: Do Moderators really serve a purpose or are they out dated?

Postby Tzshifter on Sep 25 2018, 11:19am

Notice how more popular games than this old outdated game don’t have mods because a simple report button suffices. This game has report buttons and it still has mods, interesting. The mods are nothing more than the devs mouth piece echo chambers. They blindly follow the devs and hype up events and things the devs do(which isn’t much) even when the majority of the feed back is negative. The mods are basically dogs that get abused by their owner(devs) and keep running back to their owner. Imagine not getting paid to moderate a dying app.
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Re: Do Moderators really serve a purpose or are they out dated?

Postby AshtonRocks on Sep 25 2018, 11:26am

A report button would suffice but it does require thr devs to keep a log of every text sent in this game and by whom it was sent by with time stamps.

That information would then be readily available to a support team who would receive the report and take proper action.

The moderators take most of the heat away from the support team in a sense. Especially if there isn't a large support staff.

I'm not defending the mods nor arguing against your points, I'm just throwing out a bit of info how this one aspect of the reporting system would work without the mods @Tzshifter
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Re: Do Moderators really serve a purpose or are they out dated?

Postby Rammy on Sep 25 2018, 11:38am

Tzshifter wrote: The mods are nothing more than the devs mouth piece echo chambers.

Most people would call that being a representative. Is it bad having players help plug the work developers put into it?
Tzshifter wrote:They blindly follow the devs and hype up events and things the devs do(which isn’t much) even when the majority of the feed back is negative.

How do you know what the majority wants? Do yo actually have access to that data? Forum does not represent, by any stretch, the “majority” and neither does your clan. Game developers know far more about the majority wants than any single player. Their mortgage payment depends on it, and each click we give during an event provides a data point. You speak loudly about things on which you know very little.
Tzshifter wrote:The mods are basically dogs that get abused by their owner(devs) and keep running back to their owner.
I’m sure that if modding sucked there would be no mods. No.....more than likely, the people who mod enjoy a nice relationship with ATA support staff as well as the community large. They continue to moderate because it’s both fun and rewarding.
Tzshifter wrote: Imagine not getting paid to moderate a dying app.

How many years has his game been around? 9 years? 10 years? It hasn’t died yet. It isn’t going anywhere soon.
On a side note, i find your trolling to be rather dull.
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