Attack builds are dead

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Re: Attack builds are dead

Postby -X-roni-X- on Sep 29 2017, 2:18am

I agree with semzz here . It's the same as people crying why you hitting my tiny army, i am a hansel you hitting the easyiest side that you will win on.Like they are a victim getting bullyied .When obviously the aim of the game is to take gold so you hit at what ever side the enemy is weakest on. It was your desicion to build a tiny army , likewise it is your opponents decision to build to their playstyle. If they hit you and easyily beat you they will brag about it so you can hit where you will get a victory quickly too. I was a hansel on my first account when i began kaw for over a year. Until i was in a osw the strippers club versus los and blood orchid. LOS-Arty at the time was all over me no lie and i couldnt fight back.She began to aggravate me lots haha she is a very good fighter . D.D Death Dealer said go pure spy in the osw then ,so i did. Biggest mistake i ever made.i was so bored without having any army . After the osw was over i completley changed my build and made my account balanced so i can have more of a chance with either army or spy side.i would never go back to being hansel i think its not as good as people rate it . People just follow the trend instead of doing what suits you better. I admit back in 2012 i followed the trend too but learned from my mistakes.
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Re: Attack builds are dead

Postby Lonesong on Sep 29 2017, 4:29am

So rise up! Rise up, children of the Empire! Rise up, Stormcloaks! Embrace the word of mighty Talos, he who is both man and Divine!
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Re: Attack builds are dead

Postby Semzz on Sep 29 2017, 9:01am

Sully wrote:
Semzz wrote:
Sully wrote:X_X I'm pretty clear on what the problems is. Hansels can osw and still hit ebs and maximize growth and equipment through events. Attack builds have to choose one or the other, resulting in having to eb, or enjoying osw yet falling behind in growth and equipment.

My 1 SOS should generate the same plunder and event drops from an eb that a hansels one COE does. That is all.


There is a choice in this game, pick a build, and deal with the pros and cons of that build. If you need me to detail the pros and cons of each build the please kindly request a lock. If that isn't the case and you know them, then just stop asking to have your cake and eat it too.


The status quo of the game itself has clearly changed, and now it is greatly at the detriment of the attack build. You did not refute anything I've said nor point out anything relevant to the discussion short of "you pick a build and are stuck with it".


What I pointed out is that there are pros and cons to each build, all I hear is you asking to have the pros of another build added to yours, why would anyone be a Hansel than if attack builds get the same bonuses. Again, you want your cake and eat it too. And no I didn't say you were stuck with it. If you like hansels so much change builds.
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Re: Attack builds are dead

Postby Sully on Sep 29 2017, 10:00am

The game has changed recently nullifying old advantages attack builds had and increased the viability of spy builds over attack builds even more so than before. Clearly you did not read the OP or did not understand it.
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Re: Attack builds are dead

Postby Sully on Sep 29 2017, 10:02am

Mike and Adonis- I like your idea of a draft system, that would actually help tremendously. Especially if it stared with a WC and tracker signup pool. Maybe different woc spells that can be cast prior to war?
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Re: Attack builds are dead

Postby Sully on Sep 29 2017, 10:46am

It's also absurd I can unload my spies for a total of 36 actions on a blood rains and not get the BR bonus.
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Re: Attack builds are dead

Postby Nighthawk_FPBO_1 on Sep 29 2017, 11:28am

Sully wrote:Mike and Adonis- I like your idea of a draft system, that would actually help tremendously. Especially if it stared with a WC and tracker signup pool. Maybe different woc spells that can be cast prior to war?


I had earlier Draft wars ideas.

Here is some older threads to search:

WAR

EE KaWmanders at War

Just a pair of ideas to look over and use or tweak as needed. They were a work in progress and seeking input. Thx Sully
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Re: Attack builds are dead

Postby Semzz on Sep 29 2017, 1:47pm

Sully wrote:The game has changed recently nullifying old advantages attack builds had and increased the viability of spy builds over attack builds even more so than before. Clearly you did not read the OP or did not understand it.


Okay moron, I guess you didn't understand what I said, if you think hansels are so much better than change build, or don't. Just stop crying about it. ;)
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Re: Attack builds are dead

Postby Nighthawk_FPBO_1 on Sep 29 2017, 2:51pm

Semzz wrote:
Sully wrote:The game has changed recently nullifying old advantages attack builds had and increased the viability of spy builds over attack builds even more so than before. Clearly you did not read the OP or did not understand it.


Okay moron, I guess you didn't understand what I said, if you think hansels are so much better than change build, or don't. Just stop crying about it. ;)



Just a question or 2 if i may...

Do you IWar with that stellar EB only build?
Farmed at will in PvP events?
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Re: Attack builds are dead

Postby Nighthawk_FPBO_1 on Sep 29 2017, 3:24pm

I'll answer my own 2 Q's


Smezz gets carried in IWar if he enters.

Ridden like a rented mule in PvP.
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