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ADVICE FOR BEGINNERS: ADVANCED

Postby B01 on Aug 12 2013, 7:34am

ADVICE / SUPPORT / TIPS AND TRICKS
ADVANCED


After having loads of people complementing my previous threads and asking advice on how to grow AFTER Guild Hansel HLBC, I have decided to write this thread.
This is a sequel of my previous thread Advice for Beginners. This thread will advance on builds, strategies and future game play options.


My previous thread supported progressing through the game via the ‘Guild Hansel’ build. This thread will take you through a few options you can take while progressing through the game.

If you have followed my previous thread then you SHOULD have the following;
--- HLBC Guild Hansel: X / X/ 661,000 / 661,000 (or similar)
--- Roughly 18-20b in allies.

Each Level 4 Guild will sell for: $195,505,000



First Choice: Ally Market: Is it worth the investment?


Ally trading is a key part of the game from which players with a good ally trade, much like all the LB, have the possibility to earn billions daily. Now your thinking; I’m not the LB and I haven’t got trillions to happily spare on allies.

- Buying plenty small allies could be beneficial to a fast and affordable ally trade.
- Personally, I like to work the 100-300 mil market when I buy small allies. This is because this market is the common market for others to buy too!
- If you consider 100m, 200m and 300m to respectively have the combined stats of 1k, 2k and 3k – this is your minimum threshold for your allies you buy.
- Now don’t be thinking one or two is all hunky dory (that means all right / satisfactory), fill your 249 remaining slots with them.

Now there are pros and cons.
Pros:
--- Fast trade,
--- Cheap to set up,
--- Plenty of allies to buy,
--- Plenty of allies to sell,
--- Frustrating for strippers to buy all those allies.
Cons:
--- Easy to strip (anyone can buy your allies – No need to save up or use banks)
--- Allies bought fast (EE / OSW Caution)
--- Allies bought without warning (EE / OSW Caution)

Due to inactive allies being bought and dropped they change in price from allies not being bought. Below you can find the prices of allies which have never been dropped (possibly active / new).

List of ‘Active Ally Prices’: KAW Ally List (No Commas) By S4M04NSL4Y3R



Second Choice: Growth


Before you grow you have to consider HOW you would like to grow. There are a few options from which you can approach this;
Please message me in game or post on this thread if you can think of more pros and cons.

Staggered Single Building
This means you will choose your build now. Build each building one by one one land at a time.
Pros:
--- Build your stats faster (at a daily rate),
--- Don’t have to keep lots of money out.
Cons:
--- Could slow down income rate.

Staggered Land Building
This means you have slightly longer to choose your build. Build all buildings on a land at once.
Pros:
--- Easier to get to grips with your future build,
--- Don’t have to save up crazy amounts to upgrade.
Cons:
--- Could slow down income rate,
--- Have to keep money out.

Mass Upgrade
This means you will save up massive amounts of gold and convert all buildings in one go.
Pros:
--- No need to worry about your build or future updates for a long time.
--- No need to think about what your doing – It’s just months of mindless hitting.
--- Can help with strips
--- Can help with ally transfers and volleying players allies.
--- Can use any of the other growth choices above at any time.
Cons:
--- Uh Oh – Farmed. Just lost 10s or 100s of billions in a few minutes.
--- Helping with strips could class you as a “bank”
--- People like to farm banks, you’re a prime target.
--- Can’t EE – Unless you bank in fairly large allies.



Third Choice: Build: PvP or PvE?


A previous thread of mine was written for the purpose of this thread. This thread, Builds of KAW, will provide you examples of builds the community have made. The thread explains the pro’s and con’s for PvP and PvE.

Pots
This is for future reference purposes

Attack Pots;
PriceStats
$5,00015,000
$10,00030,000
$25,00075,000
$50,000180,000
$100,000300,000
$250,000700,000
$500,0001,300,000
$1,000,0002,700,000
$2,500,0007,000,000
$7,500,00023,000,000
$8,500,00025,000,000
$12,000,00039,700,000
$15,000,00045,000,000
$22,500,00060,000,000
Total: $69,940,000 – 205,000,000

Defence Pots;
PriceStats
$1,25015,000
$2,50030,000
$6,25075,000
$12,500180,000
$25,000300,000
$62,500700,000
$125,0001,300,000
$250,0002,700,000
$1,250,0007,000,000
$3,750,00023,000,000
$4,000,00025,000,000
$6,000,00039,700,000
$6,750,00045,000,000
Total: $23,735,000 – 145,000,000

Spy Attack Pots;
PriceStats
$5,0007,500
$20,00032,500
$60,000100,000
$150,000300,000
$400,000900,000
$1,000,0002,000,000
$2,500,0007,000,000
$7,500,00015,000,000
$10,000,00020,000,000
$12,000,00030,000,000
$18,000,00035,000,000
$25,000,00050,000,000
Total: $76,635,000 – 160,340,000

Spy Defence Pots;
PriceStats
$1,2507,500
$5,00032,500
$15,000100,000
$37,500300,000
$100,000900,000
$250,0002,000,000
$1,250,0007,000,000
$3,750,00015,000,000
$5,000,00020,000,000
$6,000,00030,000,000
$7,500,00035,000,000
Total: $22,908,750 – 110,340,000

Attack/Defence Pot Difference: 60,000,000
Spy Attack/Defence Pot Difference: 50,000,000


PvP

PvP (Player VS Player) is playing the game via hitting other people in the game. Examples of which are;
--- Estoc Wars (EE),
--- Old School Wars (OSW),
--- System Wars (SW),
--- Battle List (BL).

From reading the above ‘Pots’ section you will notice the HIGH difference between pots. Now pots, allies (BFA) and equipment (BFE) are all calculated to be 50 times as much compared to your stats.

To counteract the 60,000,000 Attack/Defence pot difference you will need 1,200,000 static defence (SD). Please refer to Wulf’s Tower Page for info on tower stats.

To counteract the 50,000,000 Spy Attack/Defence pot difference you will need 1,000,000 static spy defence (SSD). Please refer to Wulf’s Spy Tower Page for info on spy tower stats.


PvE

PvE (Player VS Enviroment) is playing the game via hitting non-player characters (NPCs). Examples of which are;
--- Epic Battles (EB),
--- Quests.

Fighting PvE you do NOT need towers, unless the EB’s start hitting back. Having a combination of attack buildings and spy buildings will allow you to efficiently hit PvE targets with high plunder.



Fourth Choice: Building Ratios


If you haven’t already, I recommend a quick read through iMaster’s A Dummies Guide to Builds to have an insight.

In this section, I shall discuss a few builds you can create. Due to T6 being new with only one level out I shall disregard T6 for now. When T6 is finished I shall update this thread with T6 statistics.

Lowlands Provide 60,000 / 60,000 / 40,000 / 40,000 static stats, with level 3 castle and have 24 free available lands. The Highlands provide no additional static stats however they have 25 free available lands.


Spy (THESE WILL BE DEVELOPED)

High Stat Spy/Hansel
Low Land: Stronghold of Shadows
High Land: Volary
Stronghold of Shadows (stats): 64,960 / 64,960
Stronghold of Shadows (prices): 3.168b / 4.752b / 6.336b
Volary (stats): 160,740 / 160,740
Volary (prices): 26.334b / 52.668b / 105.336b
When creating this build the best plan is to ‘Mass Upgrade’. If you don’t wish to mass upgrade then DO NOT put SOS on highlands before converting to Volaries. Volary Level 1 is equivalent to SOS Level 3.



Attack Builds (THESE WILL BE DEVELOPED)

Attack Heavy
Low Land: Cursed Foundry
High Land: The Hatchery
Cursed Foundry (stats): 103,560 / 68,640
Cursed Foundry (price): 3b / 4.5b / 6b
The Hatchery (stats): 256,320 / 169,880
The Hatchery (price): 25b / 50b / 100b


Balanced Attack
Low Land: Circle of Elements
High Land: The Colony
Circle of Elements (stats): 94,744 / 94,744
Circle of Elements (price): 3b / 4.5b / 6b
The Colony (stats): 234,498 / 234,498
The Colony (price): 25b / 50b / 100b


Defense Heavy
Low Land: Titans Lair
High Land: Torture Garden
Titans Lair (stats): 78,672 / 103,680
Titans Lair (price): 3b / 4.5b / 6b
Torture Garden (stats): 194,720 / 256,600
Torture Garden (price): 25b / 50b / 100b




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A previous thread, Quick Little Questionaire, was used to support and implement the communities needs and view points.

This was slowly written over time – Please tell me if there are any mistakes made.

This thread IS OPEN to suggestions and developments. Please message me in-game OR post on this thread for additions and expansions!

Hope this helps. Enjoy.
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Re: ADVICE FOR BEGINNERS: ADVANCED

Postby B01 on Aug 12 2013, 7:34am

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Re: ADVICE FOR BEGINNERS: ADVANCED

Postby Sourapple on Aug 12 2013, 7:34am

Nice thread
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Re: ADVICE FOR BEGINNERS: ADVANCED

Postby Come_Inside on Aug 12 2013, 7:36am

Good job.
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Re: ADVICE FOR BEGINNERS: ADVANCED

Postby B01 on Aug 12 2013, 7:41am

Thx :3
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Re: ADVICE FOR BEGINNERS: ADVANCED

Postby B01 on Aug 12 2013, 7:58am

Please post any developments guys - Just edited a bit and looked over some stuff :) Thanks in advance.
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Re: ADVICE FOR BEGINNERS: ADVANCED

Postby slayerbob on Aug 12 2013, 8:00am

You couldn't just edit your other thread? Also, it isn't even 'advice' anymore. It looks like it's becoming a master guide, which we already have. This is too big and overwhelming for beginners in my opinion.
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Re: ADVICE FOR BEGINNERS: ADVANCED

Postby Moose on Aug 12 2013, 8:03am

ADVICE:
edit your old thread instead of making a new one
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Re: ADVICE FOR BEGINNERS: ADVANCED

Postby Sourapple on Aug 12 2013, 8:03am

Slayer, that's why he put "ADVANCED" so once they do complete that noob stage, they have this guide to look at as they did his other.
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Re: ADVICE FOR BEGINNERS: ADVANCED

Postby B01 on Aug 12 2013, 8:05am

I could edit the other thread but then that will be even larger. If this is "too big and overwhelming" then surely that thread would be off the charts.

This thread is designed and will be developed so that current guild hansels and future guild hansels who have taken my advice have future progress. The reason I have made this is that I was requested for "future" support after the previous thread. :)

The difference from between the start of the previous thread and the start of this thread is MONTHS. I wouldn't want new players to be reading all this and confusing them without previous knowledge in the game.
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