THE GREEN NEW DEAL

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Re: THE GREEN NEW DEAL

Postby AC__ShadowWraith__AC on Apr 24 2019, 11:26am

R3BORN-SOLDIER wrote:The Green New Deal will never work as long as people are wastefully spending money. Spending money on large SUV'S, driving 1 mile to the store instead of biking, buying unnecessary crap, etc.

The government can enforce as many rules about efficiency but until the people themselves are concerned with climate change and corporations like Exxon stop lobbying to cover up climate change, people will continue to buy gas guzzling SUV's and take planes everywhere.



You really that dumb to blame it all on emmissions?

Plants love that stuff aka thats what it needs besides fertile ground.

Real problem is clear cutting forests for profits. cities banning personal gardens, cities banning self sufficiency, cities ran by politicians solely out for profits and will walk on anyone to get what they want.
Cramming people in cities on tiny lots or huge complexes without gardens per family just to up profits no matter the cost.

Ridiculous how greed, how worshiping the all mighty dollar, has always destroyed everything. Ripping apart families because someone always has to work just to survive, causing majority of strife in life.


You wanna solve majority of problems at the root-
Stop chasing the dollar, do enough for what you NEED, not to give what you didnt have growing up.
Spend more time focused on your family so the kids dont repeat the mistakes of past generations.

Positive change starts at home.
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Re: THE GREEN NEW DEAL

Postby -GingeR_NutZ- on Apr 24 2019, 12:22pm

Politicians want what people want, how else will a politician get elected if doesn't offer what people want. Same in the products and services you buy for yourself and family. Where there is demand, politicians and business will follow. Change the way you live, try to make it a fashion, maybe the rest of your country will stop burning in the name of progress too.

Oh, and get your education from teachers, not politicians and journalists.
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Re: THE GREEN NEW DEAL

Postby AC__ShadowWraith__AC on Apr 24 2019, 12:50pm

-GingeR_NutZ- wrote:Politicians want what people want, how else will a politician get elected if doesn't offer what people want. Same in the products and services you buy for yourself and family. Where there is demand, politicians and business will follow. Change the way you live, try to make it a fashion, maybe the rest of your country will stop burning in the name of progress too.

Oh, and get your education from teachers, not politicians and journalists.



Politicians get elected by popularity and lies they tell the public. NEVER EVER TRUST A POLITICIAN.
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Re: THE GREEN NEW DEAL

Postby DeltaForceGM01 on Apr 24 2019, 2:48pm

“BAN COW FARTS BECAUSE ENVIRONMENT AND STUFF”
-AOC
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Re: THE GREEN NEW DEAL

Postby AC__ShadowWraith__AC on Apr 24 2019, 4:25pm

DeltaForceGM01 wrote:“BAN COW FARTS BECAUSE ENVIRONMENT AND STUFF”
-AOC


LMAO
Now if only they figured out how to catch that methane when milking cows... free heat lol
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Re: THE GREEN NEW DEAL

Postby DevilsTriangle on Apr 25 2019, 12:54am

In 20 years democrats will look back and face palm just at the mention of AOC ‘s name and the damage she did to the party by being a moron bartender that got elected because a socialist movement of idiots became popular
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Re: THE GREEN NEW DEAL

Postby -WidEspReaD_PaniC- on Apr 25 2019, 2:22am

Wow. This generation is completely clueless. I mean...COMPLETELY clueless. Whatever happened to questioning the premise? Does anyone know how to think critically and/or independently anymore?

I guess once you have voluntarily seceded all of your power and liberties to the nanny state Big Government, then perhaps you will understand how foolish and thoughtless this entire line of thinking has been.
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Re: THE GREEN NEW DEAL

Postby -chubbychaser- on Apr 25 2019, 3:05am

We can have clean environment laws and reasonable growth in the renewable energy sector without big government and socialism being forced upon the USA.What are India and China realistically doing to control their pollution?
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Re: THE GREEN NEW DEAL

Postby AC__ShadowWraith__AC on Apr 25 2019, 3:16am

Alrighty ive read up on this new greed i mean green deal and how its stated.

First off its very vague. Which brings way too many problems

2. Tackling too many things at once without ability to even complete 1 of them.

3. Alot of government programs are already in place tackling some of these issues but then pass laws making it counter productive.

4. If your thinking solar power plants are the way to go, your very wrong as 1 solar farm super heats air around it. Think about it this way, what will have a cooler surface temperature- white reflective surface or black reflective surface- obviously the white surface is the correct answer because dark colors absorb more heat causing area around it to heat up.

4. You wanna combat transportation emmisions and industry emmissions even more than current attempts without massive financial impact....
PLANT MORE TREES, STOP CLEAR CUTTING MOVING TO SELECT CUTTING (if you dont know what select cutting is look it up) and boom 3 birds 1 stone. Cools temps, trees eat those emissions (its actually good for them like oxygen is for us) and select cutting greatly reduces wildfires and if one happens doesnt take all summer to put out like it does in California.

5. You wanna save the family centered home, houses/apts

for homless/elderly/disabled and so on then stop cramming people on tiny lots with no room for a garden. And anyone saying homeless are lazy you'd be wrong. Your thinking hobos. Majority of homeless are actually suffering from illnesses either mental, physical, or both. On other hand hobos choose that life style.


Solution would destroy current housing market and banks due to ridiculous over pricing from inflation and careless lending. Face it, income per household has dropped massively in all models when adjusted to gross inflation. Give everyone land and home at reasonable mortgage.

On the plus side- minimal mortgage, room to grow food, time for family, increased mental health because less stress from mortgage worries and working on healthy family bonds and so on. Far more feasible then proposed garbage they have or are trying.


Anyway point is until everyone focuses on family before some big paying job, nothing will get better.

Ya cant expect the next generation to be better when they have this horrible foundation to build on.
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Re: THE GREEN NEW DEAL

Postby nerds_play_kaw on Apr 25 2019, 7:39am

Been updated.

This debate is rough.

Warning no cry babies
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