An Open Discussion about Estoc Trial War Times

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  1. So, the consistent feedback we are getting is that war times are not fair, that they exclude people from certain areas of the world.

    We have made our initial pass of war times based on the dsitrubtion of players around the world, and the % of the player base they take up.

    Shown below is the list of clan signups for week #2, along with which time zone we have been trying to cater to:

    War # - Signups - Timezone

    War #1 - 55 - Western NA
    War #2 - 51 - Eastern NA/Late European
    War #3 - 26 - Euro
    War #4 - 54 - Western NA
    War #5 - 48 - Eastern NA/Late European
    War #6 - 19 - Asia
    War #7 - 46 - Euro
    War #8 - 54 - Western NA
    War #9 - 42 - Euro
    War #10 - 62 - NA/Asia
    War #11 - 29 - Asia/Euro
    War #12 - 62 - NA/Euro

    From the data, we can see that any wars targeting at Asia gets the least number of signups. As for us catering to only North Americans, the wars for them are Wars #1/#2/#4/#5/#8. That is only 5 out of 12. The rest have been done to accomodate a combination of either NA/Euro or NA/Asia.

    If you want to contribute constructively to improving the wartimes, reply to this thread with a full edit of the war times, and give your reasoning to it.

    Any other threads will be deleted. Let's keep this thread clean and constructive.

    Note, if we do change war times, it will be for week #4, not #3.

    Please use this format for posting:

    War #1 - War Start Time Shown
    PDT - Monday - 7pm-7:30pm
    EDT - Monday - 10pm-10:30pm
    GMT - Tuesday - 2am-2:30am
    SGT - Tuesday - 10am-10:30am

    War #2 - War Start Time Shown
    PDT - Tuesday - 3pm-3:30pm
    EDT - Tuesday - 6pm-6:30pm
    GMT - Tuesday - 10pm-10:30pm
    SGT - Wednesday - 6am-6:30am

    War #3 - War Start Time Shown
    PDT - Wednesday - 11am-11:30am
    EDT - Wednesday - 2pm-2:30pm
    GMT - Wednesday - 6pm-6:30pm
    SGT - Thursday - 2am-2:30am

    War #4 - War Start Time Shown
    PDT - Wednesday - 7pm-7:30pm
    EDT - Wednesday - 10pm-10:30pm
    GMT - Thursday - 2am-2:30am
    SGT - Thursday - 10am-10:30am

    War #5 - War Start Time Shown
    PDT - Thursday - 3pm-3:30pm
    EDT - Thursday - 6pm-6:30pm
    GMT - Thursday - 10pm-10:30pm
    SGT - Friday - 6am-6:30am

    War #6 - War Start Time Shown
    PDT - Friday - 3am-3:30am
    EDT - Friday - 6am-6:30am
    GMT - Friday - 10am-10:30am
    SGT - Friday - 6pm-6:30pm

    War #7 - War Start Time Shown
    PDT - Friday - 12pm-12:30pm
    EDT - Friday - 3pm-3:30pm
    GMT - Friday - 7pm-7:30pm
    SGT - Saturday - 3am-3:30am

    War #8 - War Start Time Shown
    PDT - Friday - 7pm-7:30pm
    EDT - Friday - 10pm-10:30pm
    GMT - Saturday - 2am-2:30am
    SGT - Saturday - 10am-10:30am

    War #9 - War Start Time Shown
    PDT - Saturday - 7am-7:30am
    EDT - Saturday - 10am-10:30am
    GMT - Saturday - 2pm-2:30pm
    SGT - Saturday - 10pm-10:30pm

    War #10 - War Start Time Shown
    PDT - Saturday - 7pm-7:30pm
    EDT - Saturday - 10pm-10:30pm
    GMT - Sunday - 2am-2:30am
    SGT - Sunday - 10am-10:30am

    War #11 - War Start Time Shown
    PDT - Sunday - 3am-3:30am
    EDT - Sunday - 6am-6:30am
    GMT - Sunday - 10am-10:30am
    SGT - Sunday - 6pm-6:30pm

    War #12 - War Start Time Shown
    PDT - Sunday - 2pm-2:30pm
    EDT - Sunday - 5pm-5:30pm
    GMT - Sunday - 9pm-9:30pm
    SGT - Monday - 5am-5:30am
     
  2. Please read the original post before responding, posts have been deleted.
     
  3. Reserved for my schedule of war times
     
  4. I love the war times! 
     
  5. I think almost everyone will agree to keep weekend war times the same So don't change the weekend war times! But however lots of the weekday GMT wars are to early!
     
  6. My suggestion:

    War 1 (no change - for Western NA)
    PDT - Monday - 7pm
    EDT - Monday - 10pm
    GMT - Tuesday - 2am
    SGT - Tuesday - 10am

    War 2 (1 hour earlier - to compensate for BST)
    PDT - Tuesday - 2pm
    EDT - Tuesday - 5pm
    GMT - Tuesday - 9pm
    SGT - Wednesday - 5am

    War 3 (1 hour later - for Europe)
    PDT - Wednesday - 12am
    EDT - Wednesday - 3pm
    GMT - Wednesday - 7pm
    SGT - Thursday - 3am

    War 4 (no chance - for Western NA)
    PDT - Wednesday - 7pm
    EDT - Wednesday - 10pm
    GMT - Thursday - 2am
    SGT - Thursday - 10am

    War 5 (2 hours earlier - to compensate for BST and for mainland Europe)
    PDT - Thursday - 1pm
    EDT - Thursday - 4pm
    GMT - Thursday -8pm
    SGT - Friday - 4am

    War 6 (no chance - for Asia)
    PDT - Friday - 3am
    EDT - Friday - 6am
    GMT - Friday - 10am
    SGT - Friday - 6pm

    War 7 (no change - for Europe)
    PDT - Friday - 12pm
    EDT - Friday - 3pm
    GMT - Friday - 7pm
    SGT - Saturday - 3am

    War 8 (no chance - for Western NA)
    PDT - Friday - 7pm
    EDT - Friday - 10pm
    GMT - Saturday - 2am
    SGT - Saturday - 10am

    War 9 (no change - for Europe)
    PDT - Saturday - 7am
    EDT - Saturday - 10am
    GMT - Saturday - 2pm
    SGT - Saturday - 10pm

    War 10 (no chance - for NA/Asia)
    PDT - Saturday - 7pm
    EDT - Saturday - 10pm
    GMT - Sunday - 2am
    SGT - Sunday - 10am

    War 11 (1 hour later - for EDT)
    PDT - Sunday - 4am
    EDT - Sunday - 7am
    GMT - Sunday - 11am
    SGT - Sunday - 7pm

    War 12 (1 hour earlier - for Europe)
    PDT - Sunday - 1pm
    EDT - Sunday - 4pm
    GMT - Sunday - 8pm
    SGT - Sunday - 4am

    Between the brackets I put which timezone the current time or chance imo would benefitthanks for reading
     
  7. @ kaw admin. Firstly thank you for this, i have been vocal on this subject in many of your threads and appreciate that you have finally decided to look into it

    Here is my feedback

    War 1 GMT 2am. Focus NA

    War 2 - GMT 10 pm Focus NA/ LE ? (So we are supposed to stay up till midnight ? On a tuesday?

    War 3 focus euro - 6pm ? Work ? Dinner? Home life.?

    War 4 - 2am gmt focus NA

    War5 - 10pm GMT - another midnight finish late european focus (refer war 2 feedback)

    War 6 GMT 10am focus Asia - work?

    War 7 GMT 7pm - focus Europe ? (Refer war 3 answer

    War 8 - GMT 2am - focus NA

    War 9 GMT 2pm ( fair enough)

    War 10 - gmt 2 am focus NA

    War 11 GMT 10am on a weekend

    War 12 GMT 9pm (great time)

    Basically Kaw admin, you need more 8pm or 9pm euro time wars. This seems to fit in with our cousins 'over the pond' as well.

    The late european times dont work. And the euro focused war 3 time is too early.


    Make it a early NA/Euro war a 8pm, and the other NA/europe ones at 9pm and your home and dry

    Hope that makes sence?
     
  8. Basically Aeryna's times. But wednesday war should start 8pm GMT
     
  9. Grrrr devs. U make me stay up till 3am-5am to war LOL...

    11pm GMT for all wars! Perfect for Americans and UK lol.
     
  10. 2,3,5,6,7,9,11. These are the wars I can't do. I live in the PDT time zone and all of these either interfere with my schooling, ie. the ones at 3:00Pm. And the One at 12:00, the one at 3:00am, and the one @ 11:00. I'm fine with missing some wars, because of course you can't make it perfect for everyone. But I recommend you make those 3:00 pm ones @ 4:00 or even 5:00.
     
  11. War #1
    PDT - Mon - 4PM
    EDT - Mon - 7PM
    GMT - Mon - 11PM
    SGT - Tue - 7AM

    incorporates the uk zone (12 isnt too late) and isnt too much of a push for SGT.

    War #2 - Keep Same


    War #3
    PDT - Wed - 8AM
    EDT - Wed - 11AM
    GMT - Wed - 3PM
    SGT - Wed - 11PM

    incorporates SGT tz whilst not forcing PDT totally out of war

    War #4 - same as war 1 change

    War #5 - keep same

    War #6
    PDT - Fri - 7AM
    EDT - Fri - 10AM
    GMT - Fri - 2PM
    SGT - Fri - 10PM

    Pushed forward 4 hours to incorporate EDT tz while not isolating SGT

    War #7
    PDT - Fri - 9AM
    EDT - Fri - 12PM
    GMT - Fri - 4PM
    SGT - Sat - 12AM

    attempt to make SGT more accessible but leaving other tz in a reasonable tz

    War #8 - same as war 1

    War #9 - same as war #7 to include PDT a bit more whilst not forcing out SGT

    war #10 - same as war #1

    war #11 - same as war 6

    War #12
    PDT - Sun - 5PM
    EDT - Sun - 8PM
    GMT - Mon - 12AM
    SGT - Mon - 8AM

    attemt to make SGT more accessible.

    All changes are made to try and incorporate all timezones to between 8AM and 12AM as no one likes warring in the middle of the night! Some of the most populated timezones have been pushed back a little to do this but not so much that they are inaccessible. I believe the north american time zones would still do these new timezones but at the same time, allow the rest of the world to participate more aswell. :)
     
  12. I'm not American or European, but I think these times are very fair.

    Devs I think you should stick to your guns, Europeans don't make up a very big portion of KaW players, so it's stupid to centre more than two wars a week around their time zone...
     
  13. Duplitctus, early night wars are the best wars to have for all the weekdays, because most people have work, school, etc.

    The best wars for weekdays, and this is on a general consensus, is.
    Anytime 4:00am - 8:00 am.
    Anytime 4:00 pm - 10:00pm.

    Yet going further, if we had more wars in these brackets on weekends, then I think we would see more people sign up, as people have commitments with family, sport, school, etc.

    So I think most/all wars should be focused around either early morning, or early evening wars for at least one time zone.

    Hope Devs find this somewhat helpful.
    Anarchy.
     
  14. Support to areyna war times:
    Due to summer time UK is now GMT 1. Western europe GMT 2. US took 1h compared to trials as well. Just compensate it.

    War 2 ends at 1-1:30 am UK time, 2-2:30 Western Europe. This is a NA/central Atlantic war time, not Europe.
     
  15. aha. problem is the world's round. :)
     
  16. I think i speak for any younger European players in that the semi-Euro wars which start at 10:30pm GMT are not good for British players. If they were 2hours earlier or a few of the other wars a few hours later, the British/American players would be so much easier to get into wars and be playing in EE.
     
  17. Support for Arryanas times 
     
  18. That's why I said make it fit one of the timezones.

    (/).0)

     
  19. Aerynna's times are perfect in my opinion devs.
     
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