LOWLAND WARS IS DEAD LIKE PRIMAL WARS

Discuss past and ongoing wars.

Moderator: Kingdoms at War

Re: LOWLAND WARS IS DEAD LIKE PRIMAL WARS

Postby Pogo on Oct 30 2018, 11:14am

llNElll-DEMON-lllNEll wrote:
empire_foxygirl wrote:
llNElll-DEMON-lllNEll wrote:Bla Bla Bla you're all just butthurt because you only war with ffa clans in ll wars it took a lot of time and effort for me to set up No_exceptions why should I be punished if no serious clans cast? Simple just don't cast if your gonna look for deal that's why we don't even deal with ffa clans

Exactly my point,u guys cant even do lowland waRs always taking too much time effort to do thats why it needs to go since u all not can participate always too,u can do one specific war only so why u dont wanna be remove?

Cmon Hannah you know this is the main war slot I can do why take away the only war type I love about this game even you have to agree if devs give proper war rewards and stop giving tokens to losing clans then ll war will thrive again


Same suggestion I am seeing from page 1.Don't just bump this thread. Go cast your alts and match them with your main and feel that you are a Pro warrior, a legend.
Pogo
 
Posts: 3
Joined: Oct 25 2018, 6:38am

Re: LOWLAND WARS IS DEAD LIKE PRIMAL WARS

Postby Majin_Venom on Oct 30 2018, 11:31am

Support just get rid of these wars, make more Indi spots with no charms advantage

empire_foxygirl wrote:Lowland wars is dead like primal war, only one serious clan casting every war,and they are automatically wins every war against ffa, and every war 9 only 2 serious clan, its all dead, i suggest that replace the lowland wars , do more individual wars and kingdom of allies war,so all can participate,
Majin_Venom
2016 ASW Champion
 
Posts: 816
Joined: May 8 2013, 2:07pm

Re: LOWLAND WARS IS DEAD LIKE PRIMAL WARS

Postby llNElll-DEMON-lllNEll on Oct 30 2018, 12:03pm

All the ffa warriors coming out of hibernation
llNElll-DEMON-lllNEll
 
Posts: 101
Joined: Dec 9 2015, 3:32pm

Re: LOWLAND WARS IS DEAD LIKE PRIMAL WARS

Postby Maggie on Oct 30 2018, 2:19pm

Waiting and hoping there will be further improvements SOON in the war systems. Or this game is pretty much finished... For me anyways.

We shouldn't have to spend thousands just to be 'able' to war, and just remove llwars (no comments regarding that war at all!)

Thanks Devs.
Maggie
 
Posts: 11
Joined: Aug 10 2012, 2:14am

Re: LOWLAND WARS IS DEAD LIKE PRIMAL WARS

Postby empire_foxygirl on Oct 30 2018, 3:03pm

Pogo wrote:Just wanna say "lock this thread" it's of no use they will bring back charms next event and everyone will run behind ebs again. Wars are dead. Go get a pass of some nk clan and spend your weekend doing tap tap.


Lock this thread?
First use main to comment not alt lol.
Why scared to give opinion, everybody that want the lowland wars to stay they not even warring lol, like if u wanna stay it then support it by doin that lowland wars,just saying,
empire_foxygirl
 
Posts: 629
Joined: Feb 15 2012, 4:01am

Re: LOWLAND WARS IS DEAD LIKE PRIMAL WARS

Postby Yuno on Oct 30 2018, 5:52pm

-I am a noob. N ruined the quoting. KMS
@POGO
Didn't you read what he said. In ll you can basically start on same build, you win base on strategy and your teamwork, ll is FUN.
Indi on other hand, if you end up with an active team and strong top yaii, it's why i don't like doing those wars.
LL wars died cause there if losing team gets half the winning team might as well go ffa cause it will keep you top lb anyways.
War should be fun, and make the game more competitive and exciting, but that's not possible if you're against ffa, or if you go do indi wars that's all base on luck,you can't even go with prep talk "we can do it team if we try" lul. It's more like "wish I had more charm"
Yuno
 
Posts: 288
Joined: Feb 18 2013, 5:10am

Re: LOWLAND WARS IS DEAD LIKE PRIMAL WARS

Postby liilil--CHEWY--llilii on Oct 30 2018, 6:08pm

ll wars were somewhat fun before ffa clans ruined them. thats when i stopped doing ll wars and will never again. perhaps include hl and 0 items for losing side. hl builds will create some excitment but that needs combined with 0 items for losers or hl wars will have quick death also. and make them 10 clan roster. easier for clans to find 10 and cast
liilil--CHEWY--llilii
 
Posts: 31
Joined: Mar 6 2013, 2:05pm

Re: LOWLAND WARS IS DEAD LIKE PRIMAL WARS

Postby pk79 on Oct 30 2018, 6:58pm

Faust wrote:Long paragraph incoming. Let’s hope someone has the attention span to read it as I’m too lazy to make a TLDR. Looking at you devs.

Love it when devs after what 2 years now(finally) seem to care. #noseason7.

LL wars were by FAR the most equal and fun war type the devs have ever used. 15 people coming together to cast and actually try to win. In indi it is nearly always a coinflip due to one side being way more powerful than the other due to the crap match making system the devs after all this time have yet to fix. This is due to one side having superior BFA/charms or otherside having like 8 ps/hansels. There is no skill as it is determined based off match up alone. NOT SKILL. In what 1% of wars are sides truly even on matchup. Whoever says otherwise is wrong. This is shown when even in iwar people have “dealt” in the past for actions or have asked enemy side not to hit them as they will only go for scouts. Or when someone feels like it isn’t worth it to be on the full hour and just log first 2 mins to full bar scout and log off. Does this seem “fun” to you? LL war is the only real war type in which skill was a real factor. Iwar there will always be leaks, moles, trolling in cc, and egos versus in LL one can control this based on what people roster as their 15 man roster.

There were no real exploitative/op builds like past war types(turtle and ssh). There was no real leaks or moles(#rips7’smolingbyacertainclan). It came down to skill and speed. The former mattering for mirror match ups(hybrid versus hybrid/ps1 vs ps1). Speed mattered versus hybrid and ps1 which people hated. If you weren’t on pc you basically lost. Didn’t hear much complaining about pc adv when LL first came out. What changed? People got lazy and frustrated. As time went on new people on phone joined the fray and got mad they lost. Much wow because someone went out of the way to war on pc they won. What a surprise. This began a slow decline of interest in the war type. Another factor was the devs not taking any action versus the people really cheating in the game with scripts. This went on for months with 2-3 clans sending multiple reports about the same 3 people casting 15 accounts and warring them with no recourse. Even then only the alts got banned and not their mains because they spent a few bucks on this game. #oldcorruptdevs. Also some people got warnings even though they didn’t script? Nice job on that . The taking away of war EQ for no reason also put a damper on things as well as there is no real incentive. No war eq for what I think over a year now? The fact you cannot get 40k off war alone also killed the weekend warrior as in order to get 40k for smaller builds you NEED NK. Back when 15k was the max it was possible with war alone to get max equip but now it’s not possible. Make max event drops from war triple from 600 to 1800 for a war.

LL is the greatest war type that kaw ever had. The people wishing it to be gone and have round war back are just holding onto nostalgia of a “better time” or haven’t really tried LL themselves. If you are gonna replace LL do it with another war type that is in a controlled environment.

Here are some of ideas to help war if devs are serious about it.

Minor changes I have yet to mention above:
-Get rid of rewards for losers.
- KA wars get rid of DTW/DTS. It’s a dumb idea when someone can’t even have the full experience.
- Get rid of drops for losers. Make people try for once for rewards and top 100. Lower the chance of Alt abuse and doubles.
- Keep 15 man rosters. If stat spread is too large or not enough brackets drop it to 12 no lower. KA wars is fine at 20-30
- Make a better match making system. Make BFE count equal or nearly equal to BFA in terms of match making/clan ranking. BFE is counted for like 1% of BFA in terms of clan placing, fix this. When someone has top 50 static in charms but is placed below someone who barely has top 300 alb.
- PUT BACK WAR EQ.

Sweeping changes:
- Get rid of normal iwar. Let me preface this with something else as well. Make top 100/50/10 war eq convert transmute to 60-100% of normal stats pretransmuted rather then what the 10% for normal event eq. This gives having top 100/50/10 war matter after 2 months. Make this EQ UNTRADABLE.
- Now the “big” change I wanna make is this. Add the change mentioned above and get rid of this normal iwar and REPLACE(haha repeal and replace) it with WAR EQ CHARMS ACTIVATED ONLY. This means you remove the abuse of people having 400b charms and making charms affect CR placing as it gets rid of the major problem of iwar. This would give advantage to those accounts who have been working hard for eq for months(starting whenever you implement this if ever ) and makes Alt abuse in lower bracket way harder as their accounts are a bit worse. Those who are serious about war will Chase top 100 for the starting small advantage of maybe 1-2b static but overtime maybe after 2-3 cycles of events(4-6 months) can be decently large at 5-10b. If this still poses a problem to balance in iwar cap it. Or make each one give diminishing returns/cap. Making it give diminishing returns also makes it so new people/alts have a chance as well.
- Keep LL as it is now. If participation remains low replace it with some other organized war type. I hate the idea of 24/7 iwars that are a coin flip.

Let’s see if anyone reads any of the suggestions above or has any improvements/complaints. If devs do anything above I stated I’ll be surprised . Thx for reading



Any hardcore EE warrior will agree with this, only the casuals and slow leaks who can only find clans in indis because nobody wants them want LL gone.
pk79
 
Posts: 85
Joined: Jun 12 2014, 5:26pm

Re: LOWLAND WARS IS DEAD LIKE PRIMAL WARS

Postby __xXshybabieXx__ on Oct 30 2018, 7:27pm

I'll summarise :

0 tokens for losers.

Equipment to be included in war rewards.

War equipment should be better than tap tap EB equipment.

10 member lowland wars

Bring back clan prestige.

Last but not the least if you cannot fulfil above points just replace ll with K & A wars.
__xXshybabieXx__
 
Posts: 24
Joined: Sep 10 2018, 11:07pm

Re: LOWLAND WARS IS DEAD LIKE PRIMAL WARS

Postby aevette on Oct 30 2018, 11:20pm

Support
aevette
 
Posts: 4
Joined: Mar 14 2011, 8:41pm

PreviousNext

Return to Wars

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 0 guests