LOWLAND WARS IS DEAD LIKE PRIMAL WARS

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Re: LOWLAND WARS IS DEAD LIKE PRIMAL WARS

Postby ReturnOfMadMaxPinkPants on Nov 5 2018, 12:33pm

All wars are garbage
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Re: LOWLAND WARS IS DEAD LIKE PRIMAL WARS

Postby empire_foxygirl on Nov 5 2018, 2:57pm

Os-__xXShyJoeyXx__ wrote:you need a clan war, where you can war with trusted friends that wont leak nor go inactive.

do not replace LL war with Indi types pls. there are so many good ideas in this post that dev can implement with minimum resources. hear the cry dev!!! make it happen!!


Exactly uncle joey no clan much warring these days so whats the point having ll wars
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Re: LOWLAND WARS IS DEAD LIKE PRIMAL WARS

Postby empire_foxygirl on Nov 5 2018, 2:59pm

empire_foxygirl wrote:
Os-__xXShyJoeyXx__ wrote:you need a clan war, where you can war with trusted friends that wont leak nor go inactive.

do not replace LL war with Indi types pls. there are so many good ideas in this post that dev can implement with minimum resources. hear the cry dev!!! make it happen!!


Exactly uncle joey no clan much warring these days so whats the point having ll wars


And only 15 but still struggle to fill.its not a good sign,ll war only one clan can fill a good warriors coz of lack partcipants, then the rest will be ffa ,coz cant fill good warriors so it will be ffa, ffa will raise white flag for the stacked team ,

Unlike before i can fill 100 people in 100vs 100 war, back in a days, i miss the old days off estoc edge war
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Re: LOWLAND WARS IS DEAD LIKE PRIMAL WARS

Postby __xXshybabieXx__ on Nov 5 2018, 7:21pm

Everything is already summarized, no point repeating it again and again. let's wait for other 2 days and see what devs gonna do for next event. If they really care about wars you will see the difference in rewards and other things mentioned earlier. If not just quit or play what they are giving and wait for warriors to quit.
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Re: LOWLAND WARS IS DEAD LIKE PRIMAL WARS

Postby Kells on Nov 5 2018, 8:50pm

Faust wrote:Long paragraph incoming. Let’s hope someone has the attention span to read it as I’m too lazy to make a TLDR. Looking at you devs.

Love it when devs after what 2 years now(finally) seem to care. #noseason7.

LL wars were by FAR the most equal and fun war type the devs have ever used. 15 people coming together to cast and actually try to win. In indi it is nearly always a coinflip due to one side being way more powerful than the other due to the crap match making system the devs after all this time have yet to fix. This is due to one side having superior BFA/charms or otherside having like 8 ps/hansels. There is no skill as it is determined based off match up alone. NOT SKILL. In what 1% of wars are sides truly even on matchup. Whoever says otherwise is wrong. This is shown when even in iwar people have “dealt” in the past for actions or have asked enemy side not to hit them as they will only go for scouts. Or when someone feels like it isn’t worth it to be on the full hour and just log first 2 mins to full bar scout and log off. Does this seem “fun” to you? LL war is the only real war type in which skill was a real factor. Iwar there will always be leaks, moles, trolling in cc, and egos versus in LL one can control this based on what people roster as their 15 man roster.

There were no real exploitative/op builds like past war types(turtle and ssh). There was no real leaks or moles(#rips7’smolingbyacertainclan). It came down to skill and speed. The former mattering for mirror match ups(hybrid versus hybrid/ps1 vs ps1). Speed mattered versus hybrid and ps1 which people hated. If you weren’t on pc you basically lost. Didn’t hear much complaining about pc adv when LL first came out. What changed? People got lazy and frustrated. As time went on new people on phone joined the fray and got mad they lost. Much wow because someone went out of the way to war on pc they won. What a surprise. This began a slow decline of interest in the war type. Another factor was the devs not taking any action versus the people really cheating in the game with scripts. This went on for months with 2-3 clans sending multiple reports about the same 3 people casting 15 accounts and warring them with no recourse. Even then only the alts got banned and not their mains because they spent a few bucks on this game. #oldcorruptdevs. Also some people got warnings even though they didn’t script? Nice job on that . The taking away of war EQ for no reason also put a damper on things as well as there is no real incentive. No war eq for what I think over a year now? The fact you cannot get 40k off war alone also killed the weekend warrior as in order to get 40k for smaller builds you NEED NK. Back when 15k was the max it was possible with war alone to get max equip but now it’s not possible. Make max event drops from war triple from 600 to 1800 for a war.

LL is the greatest war type that kaw ever had. The people wishing it to be gone and have round war back are just holding onto nostalgia of a “better time” or haven’t really tried LL themselves. If you are gonna replace LL do it with another war type that is in a controlled environment.

Here are some of ideas to help war if devs are serious about it.

Minor changes I have yet to mention above:
-Get rid of rewards for losers.
- KA wars get rid of DTW/DTS. It’s a dumb idea when someone can’t even have the full experience.
- Get rid of drops for losers. Make people try for once for rewards and top 100. Lower the chance of Alt abuse and doubles.
- Keep 15 man rosters. If stat spread is too large or not enough brackets drop it to 12 no lower. KA wars is fine at 20-30
- Make a better match making system. Make BFE count equal or nearly equal to BFA in terms of match making/clan ranking. BFE is counted for like 1% of BFA in terms of clan placing, fix this. When someone has top 50 static in charms but is placed below someone who barely has top 300 alb.
- PUT BACK WAR EQ.

Sweeping changes:
- Get rid of normal iwar. Let me preface this with something else as well. Make top 100/50/10 war eq convert transmute to 60-100% of normal stats pretransmuted rather then what the 10% for normal event eq. This gives having top 100/50/10 war matter after 2 months. Make this EQ UNTRADABLE.
- Now the “big” change I wanna make is this. Add the change mentioned above and get rid of this normal iwar and REPLACE(haha repeal and replace) it with WAR EQ CHARMS ACTIVATED ONLY. This means you remove the abuse of people having 400b charms and making charms affect CR placing as it gets rid of the major problem of iwar. This would give advantage to those accounts who have been working hard for eq for months(starting whenever you implement this if ever ) and makes Alt abuse in lower bracket way harder as their accounts are a bit worse. Those who are serious about war will Chase top 100 for the starting small advantage of maybe 1-2b static but overtime maybe after 2-3 cycles of events(4-6 months) can be decently large at 5-10b. If this still poses a problem to balance in iwar cap it. Or make each one give diminishing returns/cap. Making it give diminishing returns also makes it so new people/alts have a chance as well.
- Keep LL as it is now. If participation remains low replace it with some other organized war type. I hate the idea of 24/7 iwars that are a coin flip.

Let’s see if anyone reads any of the suggestions above or has any improvements/complaints. If devs do anything above I stated I’ll be surprised . Thx for reading


This. This is what we need.
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Re: LOWLAND WARS IS DEAD LIKE PRIMAL WARS

Postby xWarRocketAJAXx on Nov 6 2018, 3:34am

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Re: LOWLAND WARS IS DEAD LIKE PRIMAL WARS

Postby _dr4g0n-h34rt-kn1ght_ on Nov 7 2018, 9:07am

Big support
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Re: LOWLAND WARS IS DEAD LIKE PRIMAL WARS

Postby TheWolfOfKaWStreet on Nov 7 2018, 11:27am

Lowland War should start in 30 minutes and not a single match up in Clan Events.
It's time to let this die.
Maybe in the future when more people start to partake in Indy Wars they can push it into Clan Wars.
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Re: LOWLAND WARS IS DEAD LIKE PRIMAL WARS

Postby Vamperous on Nov 7 2018, 11:54am

TheWolfOfKaWStreet wrote:Lowland War should start in 30 minutes and not a single match up in Clan Events.
It's time to let this die.
Maybe in the future when more people start to partake in Indy Wars they can push it into Clan Wars.

But there is a match...
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Re: LOWLAND WARS IS DEAD LIKE PRIMAL WARS

Postby TheWolfOfKaWStreet on Nov 7 2018, 12:08pm

I kid you not, in didn't pop up for me lol
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